Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oog & Blik

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Linguist111 (talk) 06:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oog & Blik

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Non-notable publishing company. Redirect to De Bezige Bij, who acquired them in 2010 before putting the publisher on hold in 2015. Mooonswimmer 15:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation, Companies, and Netherlands. Shellwood (talk) 15:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The publishing company was notable, as is his founder, Joost Swarte. Problem is, most references are in newspapers behind paywalls (Parool, Vrij Nederland, NRC). Oog&Blik was during 30 years a leader in the Netherlands in publishing high-quality cartoons. After the takeover, cartoonists left to establish Scratch Books. De Bezige Bij quit the business of cartoons. Here is a good reference: the publishing house was used as a case-study in a dissertation. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 02:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into De Bezige Bij, as much of the content is salvable. These shorts about historic publishing houses are a qualified disaster in upkeep and should be viewed as premature WP:SPINOFFs and at times even WP:CONTENTFORKs. Beyond the scope of this AfD, but really both should be contained in WPG Uitgevers, following the Lannoo and DPG Media model. This model can be applied even to a preliminary merge. No question of course of keeping the article on Joost Swarte. gidonb (talk) 11:31, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:28, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I can't access the sources mentioned above, but the explanation for the merge seems reasonable. Oaktree b (talk) 19:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment as the big merge executor of Benelux publishing houses, I would love to take this task upon me! gidonb (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting once more to see support for a Merge vs. Keeping or Redirecting this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.