Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Esmaili

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The result was delete‎. Spartaz ^Humbug! 01:14, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Esmaili

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Article was an unsourced BLP for many years and eventually deleted via WP:PROD in March 2021, with just this source. A few days ago, on 15 August 2023, it was recreated as a translation from the French Wikipedia, with two obituaries as sources. I am having trouble finding anything further, and I am skeptical that this French translation addresses the notability issue that resulted in the last proposed deletion. The only thing changed was the subject had passed away. Was someone who wasn't notable due to having only one source would suddenly become notable upon his death because he has two obituaries? He may well be notable but the sources are likely to be in Persian. He might even meet WP:MUSICBIO in Iran, although evidence of that is scant. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Iran. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:46, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:23, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the subject was apparently a lesser government minister in the national culture ministry, and there seem to be a decent number of search results including several obituaries which suggests notability. Also found these biography overviews https://www.beytoote.com/art/artist/biography-mohammad1-esmaeili.html and https://www.hamshahrionline.ir/news/170929/%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%DA%AF%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%87-%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%DB%8C-%DB%B1%DB%B3%DB%B1%DB%B3 which seems to further support notability, although no idea how good the sources are. - Indefensible (talk) 04:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as this discussion was already PROD'd so Soft Deletion is not an option and right now, only the nominator supports Delete. Here's hoping we hear from a few more editors.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist as this is looking more and more like No Consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. My review of the sources doesn't support the idea that the article subject as a "lesser government minister" — rather, they read more like he was a senior employee within the ministry of culture. The sources provided do not appear sufficient to indicate notability. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 00:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.