Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Bonaire

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The result was no consensus. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 08:38, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Bonaire

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fails WP:GNG, no independent sources The Banner talk 12:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - While it should be improved, I believe it is notable enough. DaltonCastle (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Per nom. This is a small island of 17,000 people, it isn't independent, it only sporadically holds this contest, and the winner doesn't always compete anywhere else. Since no part of notability criteria guarantees automatic notability to beauty pageants absent reliable sources about the same, I see no reason to keep the article. Ravenswing 04:48, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep a) Part of a series on Miss World participant countries and territories. Pages can have a own page if they are part of a series on a specific topic, like Belize at the 2015 World Championships in Athletics. b) There are secondary sources, just a few from a quick Google search: 1, 2, 3, 4. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 11:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Can't form an opinion either way because whilst I don't think it is notable, looking at these three templates: Template:MissWorldCountries, Template:MissUniverseCountries and Template:MissEarthCountries, just existing and taking part warrants an article. Think of that what you will, but I think for consistency, you've either got to vote keep, or address notability at a more fundamental level i.e. not one tiny non-independent island at a time, but the guidelines on notability for all articles on small (in pageant terms e.g. never hosted, never placed etc) participants. Rayman60 (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note that not all articles linked in the above mentioned template have evidence of participation and/or are unsourced articles. The Banner talk 18:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This is a feeder to major international pageants and, as noted by others, is part of a series of national-level articles on such feeders. As for sourcing, that does seem to be a problem with many of these article, but not an insurmountable one. Before coming here, I replaced one of the Facebook sources on this article with something independent. So, sourcing can be done. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • As far as I know notability is not inherited, certainly not from a navigation template. The Banner talk 21:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Draft as a compromise as everyone here, I'm sure, can concur this still needs considerable improvements, and no one has taken the initiatives to actually improve it thus Draft if needed and remove from mainspace as there's nothing suggesting better. SwisterTwister talk 22:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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