Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milasha Joseph

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Milasha Joseph

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Subject fails WP:GNG. The references I find are all from the same time period (within two weeks of each other) and read similar so likely an issue of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Only one that isn't is from Keralakaumudi Daily which I am unsure is reliable or not. Seven Summits have been attempted by many so not likely to obtain the significant coverage required for notability until after she completes it. CNMall41 (talk) 08:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Women, and India. CNMall41 (talk) 08:05, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, WP:TOOSOON. Theroadislong (talk) 08:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the argument of WP:NCLIMBER and WP:TOOSOON may not be applicable in Milasha's case. Her journey is not solely about climbing; it's about overcoming adversity and inspiring others. Deletion based on being "too soon" could hinder the representation of achievements by individuals facing unique challenges. Milasha's chronic asthma, an incurable condition, adds a layer of complexity to her mountaineering endeavors. Her story goes beyond climbing mountains; it's about breaking societal constraints and empowering women to pursue their dreams irrespective of health challenges. Benraphy (talk) 08:41, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, and per WP:NCLIMBER that warns on Seven Summits BLPs (i.e. people who are non-notable climbers using seven summits projects to generate publicity); wasn't aware of WP:NEWSORGINDIA but makes sense as there are several weak Indian climbing BLPs that have zero climbing notability but who somehow got coverage in Indian news media (e.g. Anil Vasave). Aszx5000 (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:18, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Milasha Joseph's pursuit of the Seven Volcanic Summits is a unique and challenging endeavor. While it's acknowledged that many attempt the Seven Summits, Milasha's journey is distinctive due to her chronic asthma. Her determination to overcome physical challenges and empower women makes her a notable figure. WP:GNG The concern about references being from a similar time period may be a result of the prominence of Milasha's achievements within a specific timeframe. The uniqueness of her story might have garnered more attention during certain periods, and this does not diminish its significance. Reliability of News While questioning the reliability of Keralakaumudi Daily, it's crucial to note that regional newspapers can provide valuable insights into the achievements of local individuals. Benraphy (talk) 08:37, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NCLIMBER, the Seven Summits is not only not notable in climbing but is actively used to manufacture notability on Wikipedia, particularly via WP:NEWSORGINDIA to generate "inspiring stories". The "Seven Volcanic Summits" is a much easier feat than even the non-notable Seven Summits as it doesn't include Everest. Aszx5000 (talk) 09:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable enough. And as user Aszx5000 said, this article is most probably used to manufacture notability on Wikipedia. killer bee  09:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Does not pass SUSTAINED and the promotional tone of the current coverage and SPA article creator suggest some degree of publicity-seeking going on.

JoelleJay (talk) 06:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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