Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miho Arakawa

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The result was keep per WP:SNOW and WP:IAR. This was not a well thought out nomination. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:14, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Miho Arakawa

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Main role as Himari (Penguindrum), significant roles include Meiko (Digimon) and Sonia (Dangan Ronpa). Anything else? Google search does not turn up any relevant sources to speak of; articles on ANN are just passing mentions (cast announcements). Not notable for the time being. Sk8erPrince (talk) 06:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --SephyTheThird (talk) 08:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Starring roles in Penguindrum, Wizard Barristers, Magica Wars, Yurikuma Arashi. Supporting role in Riddle Story of Devil. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:16, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Subject barely has enough notable credits to have her article. Probably WP:TOOSOON. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 09:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Those are notable anime shows as they have been adapted into English. And she stars in them. That's WP:ENT right there. How is that barely? I have added news articles and interviews to these roles and that's only from the first google news search. Barely = 1 role. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Magica Wars has never been adapted to English. That's not a very notable show, then. Also, Tsunomi (Wizard Barristers) is not a main role, but main supporting. You even said it yourself - look at how the roles are grouped on ANN, right? Tsunomi is grouped in the second category. So I assert my claim once again that the subject barely has any notable credits; only 2 so far (Yurikuma Arashi and Penguindrum). --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:00, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Magica Wars is available for streaming with English subtitles on Crunchyroll. Not that the suggestion it isn't notable without it holds up.SephyTheThird (talk) 10:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, then I shall clarify myself - what I mean by "English adaption" is whether or not the show has received a dub. In Miho's case, the three shows that she played a significant role in - Penguindrum, Wizard Barristers, and Yurikuma Arashi have dubs.

Lack of dubs still shouldn't be used as an assumption of notability. Setting aside the 'day one" streaming of subtitled versions, companies are again issuing sub only releases. SephyTheThird (talk) 11:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd still argue that Magica Wars is not notable, but that's not the main topic here. So, moving on... --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ANN doesn't necessarily determine the hierarchy of the roles. You should also look at Cast/Staff for the anime show itself. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 10:29, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Angus, you SUGGESTED me to use ANN's grouping system to determine the hierachy of the roles, would you like to me directly quote you? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You'll also notice she goes on all the promos for the show as a starring member. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 10:31, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ANN's got a very limited grouping system; they usually pick the 1-2 top stars in a show and usually just the protagonists, grouping everyone else as supporting or lower. They're not authoritative on that, but if you need to know which actors carry the show, that's one way to decide. Cast/Staff anime lists pick the top 6-10 people and those can be deemed star billing and significant roles in the production. Like I said, that she is touring with the promo events suggests she might have a starring role. If she tours with 2 others and there are like 3-5 stars in cast/staff, then probably yes she's a star for that show. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 11:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep at least 3 major roles, passes Wp:Ent.SephyTheThird (talk) 10:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I need some input from other members regarding this matter. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep To the nominator: Wikipedia editors don't answer to you and you should get off your high horse. I agree with AngusWOOF's assessment that WP:ENT is passed and wonder on what basis the nominator places himself above Wikipedia's guidelines. _dk (talk) 12:14, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:BEFORE, and WP:POINT. This subject passes WP:ENT. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:35, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.