Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malory Towers

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Malory Towers

The result was Speedy Keep - nomination withdrawn due to edits to the article, no other delete !votes. Claritas § 13:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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The fictional school itself does not meet WP:N, as there is little coverage of the school in reliable independent sources. The series itself is undoubtedly notable, but should be covered in an independent article. I can find plenty of sources which substantiate the notability of the series of novels, but none which directly substantiate the notability of the setting. Claritas § 15:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Although the first sentence is about the fictional school, the article appears to be about the series; the lead section needs rewriting to clarify this. snigbrook (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in Category:Fictional Schools, which suggests that it is supposed to be about the school. I agree that most of the article is encyclopaedic material concerning the series, but I wasn't sure whether it was acceptable to actually change the subject of an article by rewriting the introduction. Claritas § 21:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's categorised as a school and a series; the article was originally about the series and most of the content still is. snigbrook (talk) 21:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be appropriate then to simply rewrite the introduction so that the article is about the series ? I've got no issues with having an article concerning the series of books. 07:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Keep The nomination asserts that "there is little coverage of the school in reliable independent sources". No evidence is provided for this claim which seems absurd as one can soon find sources such as The Encyclopaedia of Girls' School Stories, International companion encyclopedia of children's literature‎, The Oxford encyclopedia of children's literature‎, etc. just by looking. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The series of books is notable, and there's evidence of that, but there's no significant coverage of the fictional school. Claritas § 07:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Malory Towers is the natural title for the article, just like Famous Five, Billy Bunter, Noddy and other series of children's books. The school is the eponymous feature in this case and its features are certainly covered by reliable independent sources. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I entirely agree. The only issue with this article is its first sentence in my opinion, which suggests that it is about the fictional school, not the series - "Malory Towers is a fictional Cornish seaside boarding school which features in a series of six novels by British children's author Enid Blyton". Claritas § 11:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:BEFORE which explains that "If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a good candidate for AfD.". Colonel Warden (talk) 21:17, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep The article now reflects a notable book series. Aiken ♫ 22:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Colonel Warden. Edward321 (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nomination withdrawn - per WP:BEFORE, I probably should have just been bold and changed the subject of the article. Claritas § 13:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.