Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of soap opera recasts

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The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 00:11, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of soap opera recasts

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I'm not sure what the point to this list is. Recasting a character is a basic part of television - this is just dealing with soap operas. This information is already included in the relevant articles on the chartacters themselves. This is a collection of trivia, a trivia list. My view is that this is just WP:LISTCRUFT and it fails number 3 on WP:IINFO - given that the list in incomplete and already extremely long, it can never realistically conform either.Rain the 1 11:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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It isn't typical in other TV shows for characters to be recast. It happens in soap operas to the extent that it has become a cliche and joke. postdlf (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Postdlf is right, this happens all the time in soap operas, especially longer running ones. Indiscriminate list. Secret ^account 04:49, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per nom, Postdlf, and Secret. Vacation9 (talk) 18:29, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This doesn't violate WP:LIST other than needing some style scrubbing. Soap operas are a broad genre so I don't agree with the non-guideline WP:LISTCRUFT classification. If there were a list for each of the soap operas, then we'd have a problem. --NINTENDUDE ⁶⁴ 21:38, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Honestly I rather have a list of soap operas (as long as it has several reliable sources that names it a soap opera) than this list. A list of recasts in a soap opera isn't really a notable topic covered extensively by highly reliable sources other than soap opera magazines which clearly isn't independent of the source. The few ones that might be considered "controversal" in highly reliable sources belongs in the show's page, not its own spinout article. A list of soap operas meets WP:LIST, a list of recasts doesn't meet nearly all of the criteria. Secret ^account 23:47, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment. I don't see anywhere in WP:LIST where this article doesn't satisfy the standard. Purpose #1 listed is information and this is certainly information. I think the policy in question here is WP:IINFO and whether or not this would be considered indiscriminate (which is elaborated on by WP:LISTCRUFT). I personally don't see it here, but that was after an initial reaction to vote delete after which I considered the reason why and didn't think it was strong enough -- which is why I mentioned I think individual lists for each soap opera would be too narrow and indiscriminate. --NINTENDUDE ⁶⁴ 03:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 04:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I'm in agreement with Nintendude64, I don't see this as listcruft as it stands, though it could use more referencing - I doubt it would be difficult to do. –anemone projectors– 14:22, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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