Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of prime ministers of Canada by time in office

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The result was keep. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 17:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of prime ministers of Canada by time in office

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Fails WP:LISTN, and also appears to be a trivial cross-categorisation based on statistical trivia. I can't find any source which discusses PMs based on the length of their time in office; and the section about "Calculation of terms of office" contains only general material about the term lengths of prime ministers; and then some WP:OR based on parliamentary records. None of the sources in the table seem like they're dealing with the title subject either, only providing details about the respective prime minister's terms. There are two alternatives, thus: merging those paragraphs about prime minister's terms to the main list article; which seems excessive as lists are usually kept short and such details about individual entries are better left in the article about the PM's themselves; or, of course, deleting as one usually does with OR and statscruft... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I see you've put a number of these types of articles up for delete. I think if the out come on those are keep (which it looks like they will be), this should be kept as well. -- Earl Andrew - talk 15:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How unconvincing. As for the eternal OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument, unless you can show that the same circumstances that appear to apply to others apply to this, then that's irrelevant. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:12, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to me that this keep is more WP:OUTCOMES and WP:POINTy than OTHERCRAP. Nfitz (talk) 23:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. The info can be added as a sortable column on the list.67.173.23.66 (talk) 21:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to what, User:67.173.23.66? Nfitz (talk) 23:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of prime ministers of Canada.67.173.23.66 (talk) 05:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the information be added now to that article now? I just cleaned up an AFD merge from 2009, where the article was redirected, but no one ever actually merged any of the material! Otherwise, it's a keep with no prejudice on a later redirect, if someone adds it. Nfitz (talk) 05:51, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Since Prime Ministers do not have fixed terms of office, having a list organised by term of office provides significant information about the relative political significance of the different PMs. They are inherently notable, both individually and as a group, and their relationships to each other is illustrated by a list showing terms of office. The list by time in office thus serves an informational function that a chronological list or an alphabetical list would not do. (I also think it would be difficult to produce a sortable list; I tried to do that with this list, but was defeated by the fact that some PMs served separated terms. But then, I'm not the most techno-wikipedians around, so maybe someone else, more versed in wikidom, would be able to figure it out.) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:22, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Mr Serjeant Buzfuz.4meter4 (talk) 20:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the comments by Serjeant Buzfuz. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per rationale of Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. ExRat (talk) 05:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or Merge. I've come across several reliable sources recently that have evaluated Justin Trudeau's legacy in the context of how his term in office compares to other PMs: The Conversation, CBC, and Maclean's. Seems notable, in that light. If we can find a way to merge it cleanly into another page, that'd be reasonable—but I agree with Serjeant Buzfuz that it's difficult given the existence of split terms.
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