Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people from Punjab (India)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep as per consensus and the absence of deletion requests beyond the nominator. Non-admin closure. Warrah (talk) 00:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of people from Punjab (India)

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This recently-created article is basically a cut-and-paste copy of the bulk of List of Punjabis, except with all the Pakistanis removed. My PROD was contested with the remark that this article "is list of people from a state of India, List of Punjabis is list of people from an ethnicity," so I suppose (though I can't immediately tell) that this article also wouldn't include foreign-born Punjabis. Nevertheless, the difference is minor, and I don't know that there are any foreign-born Punjabis in the List of Punjabis to start with. As for the Pakistanis, List of Punjabis already segregates them from the Indians in most cases. The result is that this article is, at best, basically a questionable content fork which duplicates word-for-word probably 80% of the List of Punjabis, and whose purpose (if there is any) could be carried out with minor rearrangement and better headings for the existing article. Glenfarclas (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, All Indian states have list of people from their states Lists of Indians by state so why can not there be a list of people from Punjab(India) - a major state of India.See also the List of Tamils and the List of people from Tamil Nadu and also List of Marathi people and List of people from Maharashtra and also List of Telugu people and List of people from Andhra Pradesh and so on. So what is the problem? If the name of someone not from Punjab(India) is in the list that name should be removed but that is not the reason to delete the list.I can change the order of the names on the list to make it look different if the lists of similar looks are not permitted under a wikipedia policy.Shyamsunder (talk) 21:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: Because all you've done is created an article that'll almost entirely duplicate material in an existing article, except minus the Pakistanis. The result is that the lists will be harder to maintain (List of Punjabis has already been semi-protected because of maintenance issues), and related material will wind up getting spread unnecessarily among several articles rather than kept together in one easy-to-use article. Most of your argument falls under WP:WAX; the rest seems to consist of a misunderstanding that just because List of people from X and List of Xians could both exist, with ever-so-slight differences between them, they should both exist. The fact that the two articles have "similar looks" isn't the problem, it's a symptom of the problem that they're so similar in scope as to make it counterproductive to separate them out. Glenfarclas (talk) 22:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You do not seem to be aware of the states of India and population patterns and various ethnicities. Not all people living in Punjab India are Punjabi.A good number of people from other Indian states like Haryana, Bihar, Himachal Pradesh, Delhi etc also live there and they are not Punjabi.That is true for all major Indian states.There is lot of internal migration within the country.We need the state wise list of people to accomodate all people irrespective of their ethnicities. We have list for all other states then Punjab India should also have one. : Shyamsunder (talk) 11:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep lists of people from a city are acceptable, and this is such a long list, it cannot be practically merged into another article. Dew Kane (talk) 04:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: It doesn't need to be merged into another article. It's already contained in the article it was copied out of. It's as though I took List of Ford automobiles and copied 90% of it over to create an unnecessary List of gasoline-powered Ford automobiles — you don't need to merge the material anywhere; it's already perfectly well-situated in the list it came from. Glenfarclas (talk) 08:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep People from the state of Punjab need not be Punjabis. There is internal immigration within India. The categories "List of People from State X" are needed to differentiate between ethnicity and state of residence/domicile. By having a single "Punjabi people" category, an immigrant from say Tamil Nadu living in Chandigarh will be classified as "Punjabi" (along with citizens of Pakistan). How is this rational?. And comparing this with Ford/gas powered Ford automobiles is just plain weird.--Sodabottle (talk) 05:30, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Sodabottle. Rabbabodrool (talk) 21:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.