Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Tower Hamlets

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Even if this isn't a "tit-for-tat nomination", the simple fact of the matter is that if an article closely related to an article under dispute and created by one of the disputers is AfD'd by the other disputer, the inevitable result will be far more heat than light. Therefore, even if we AGF and say this doesn't fit speedy keep criterion 2D, it does fit WP:IAR. User:Sport and politics and User:MRSC are encouraged to resolve their dispute over Directly elected mayor of Tower Hamlets/Mayor of Tower Hamlets first, then, once that is done, if this isn't merged and it's still believed to not be a suitable list, it can be renominated for deletion. There is no deadline, and the encyclopedia won't collapse into a black hole if this sits for awhile while a deep breath is taken, everyone has a nice cup of tea and a sit down, and things are hashed out in a civil and respectful fashion that results in a clear WP:CONSENSUS. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:47, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of mayors of Tower Hamlets

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Wikipeidia is not a repository for lists and the post itself the list is created for is not notable enough to have a separate Wikiepdia article of its own. Wikiepdia is not for creating articles just for the sake of it, which this this article is. If individual holders of the Office are notable then that should be included in the main Tower Hamlets page and a separate page is wholly unneeded. The guidance which should be followed when creating lists can be found here and this list falls foul of not being notable and should be deleted. Sport and politics (talk) 18:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep. Clearly meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in reliable sources, including those that are independent of the subject. MRSC (talk) 19:44, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- Reply The office which is and of itself not notable, therefor makes a list of holders of that office is not notable. It is just a list for the sake of it. It clearly fails WP:GNG as opposed to meeting them. indiviual office holders if they are notable should have their own page and the notable people should be included in the main Tower Hamlets page a separate page clearly fails notability. Sport and politics (talk) 19:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The office appears to be notable, passing the WP:GNG clearly, which makes a list of its holders notable as well. This could be converted into an article about the office, with a list as a section, or both an article and a list could exist. That is a question ofm editorial judgement, and should not be a matter for AfD. DES ^(talk) 23:38, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Comment I think there may be misunderstanding this article is only for the council appointed office holder which has only been in existence since 1995 not the post elected by the public which has been in existence sine 2010. Sport and politics (talk) 00:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I find it well er notable that this AfD nomination occurred just after a move of a closely related page to which the nominator objected. ~~A bit of forum-shopping perhaps?~~ DES ^(talk) 23:38, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is part of a POV fork and should be deleted as it is not a notable subject to warrant an article. Sod all to do with when the page created remember always WP:AGF. I don't really think one local newspaper demonstartes the notabilitiy of the post either more just the notability of its reporting on council business and the Council itself being used as a source is not a demonstration of wider notability. Currently (at the time of writing) seven of the sources are Tower Hamlets council itself 2 sources are the London Gazette and are for Mayors before the current Borough of Tower Hamlets was established in 1995 One is a local government directory which the equivalent of a phone book for local government and the only other source is one local newspaper who appears to be focusing more on the person taking up the office than the office itself. It appears in no doubt that the office exists but the sources do not establish any notability of the office. All the sources do is say this person held this office they give no reason as to why this office is a notable office which warrants inclusion in Wikipedia. Sport and politics (talk) 00:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:02, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:02, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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