Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Philippine actresses

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 19:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Philippine actresses

useless list redundant because it is just a raw list. A category already exists Ohconfucius (talk) 04:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: much too broad a scope for a list. Philippines has a small much thriving movie and TV industry and this list would become unwieldy in very short order. --Kickstart70TC 04:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. There is already Category:Filipino actors for that. Starczamora (talk) 06:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or move to project space. Categories do not allow for inclusion of redlinks and the redlinks in this list might be useful in creating article. (I do however agree that besides the redlinks, this list has no redeeming features). - Mgm|^(talk) 09:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This article is a necessary and logical part of a substantial series of indexing lists on actors by nationality. Redlinks show the reason why lists are not redundant to categories, and point out gaps in coverage. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 13:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If that is so, male actors should be included in the list as well. Starczamora (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored List of Philippine actors, which was turned into a cross-namespace redirect to a category. Question: should these lists be "Philippine" actors and actresses, or "Filipino"? - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 21:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The people are called Filipinos.--Lenticel ^(talk) 00:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The base concept of such lists is flawed...it's just too huge a concept. For example, with Bollywood's huge movie industry, a list of actors or actresses from India, if even partially complete, would crash browsers with overwhelming size. This is why categories exist, and why those categories are easily split into alphanumeric pages. --Kickstart70TC 17:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Smerdis. Note that "list-category redundancy" is not a valid reason for deletion, becuase lists and categories are meant to be complementary. Cosmic Latte (talk) 15:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Categories are more useful than lists are, and if it's already categorized, it needn't be listified. IRK!Leave me a note or two 17:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Even though WP:CLN explicitly states that lists and categories are meant to be complementary and synergistic? Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Work further upon. I cant really vote for a delete or a keep yet until the evolution of the said list. Shoowak (talk) 06:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There are tons and tons of Filipino actresses and actors, and if they're in one article/list, it'll be extremely long they'd have to be reclassified into some other way (like by decades). Plus the list exclusively lists actresses from a certain time span and no contemporary actresses are listed. I don't think it's a good idea to put them in one super list. –Howard the Duck 16:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.