Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Harvard Crimson in the NFL Draft

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The result was Keep WP:SNOW‎. (non-admin closure) Bruxton (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Harvard Crimson in the NFL Draft

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Fails WP:NLIST and WP:GNG; the topic of "Harvard Crimson football players in the NFL draft" does not appear to be notable, and thus we should not have a list related to that topic. BilledMammal (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and United States of America. BilledMammal (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not voting yet, but noting that its commonplace to have list articles on the draft picks of college teams, see the several hundred listed at Category:Lists of National Football League draftees by college football team, some of which are even FLs. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, American football, and Massachusetts. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:13, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:NLIST as coverage exists of former Harvard players drafted in the NFL as a group such as here, here, and here (though the latter just covers Harvard alums who played in the NFL, not draftees specifically), along with the Drafthistory reference already in the page. Frank Anchor 17:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Of those sources, only the "bleacherreport" appears to contribute to GNG. The others clearly don't; both "247sports" and "as" are lists that lack WP:SIGCOV of the topic. The draft report currently in the article is the same. BilledMammal (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NLIST does not require the sources contribute to GNG. It explains that One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. The above sources are independent and reliable and discuss the players as a group While some some may or may not be significant, that is not relevant to NLIST. Frank Anchor 12:20, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note from the creator. Keep. BilledMammal, I think you are confusing WP:NLIST and WP:GNG and you have yet to make a case as to why this article, or other similar list articles, are not notable. WP:GNG is a handbook for general notability, while WP:NLIST is more specific to lists and I have seen has a somewhat lower standard. Why is this Harvard list of draftees not notable, but others are? Also, all of the linked sources mentioned above by User:Frank Anchor do relate to the article and abide by WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. Please state a case as to why it should be removed beyond your opinion that it is not notable. Debartolo2917 (talk) 05:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The others aren't relevant to this discussion; WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST. The sources provided by Frank Anchor relate to the article, but of the four (including the one currently in the article) three are only lists of players from the Harvard Crimsons who joined the NFL. Such lists aren't WP:SIGCOV and don't contribute to notability; unless you can find another source like the bleacherreport one we cannot keep this article. BilledMammal (talk) 05:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Frank Anchor's sources look sufficient. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sources given above do prove WP:SIGCOV. Themanwithnowifi (talk) 17:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:NLIST per Frank Anchor's sources, per all above. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Meets WP:NLIST, as noted above. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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