Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerry Ketter

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Goldsztajn (talk) 02:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry Ketter

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stub on an unnotable sportsperson. ltbdl (talk) 05:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He played in the NHL so is notable enough for an article.Canuck85 (talk) 08:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Ice hockey, and Canada. ltbdl (talk) 05:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@canuck85: erm, no. ltbdl (talk) 10:49, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that merely playing in the NHL no longer meets our notability guidelines. But with this much NHL experience who played this recently almost certainly has enough coverage to meet our notability guidelines. So in the absence of some particular reason why this particular player wouldn't have coverage, there was no good reason to make this waste-of-editor-time nomination. A better use of time would have been to use a few of the easily found sources below and add them to the article. Rlendog (talk) 13:16, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I can guarantee Ketter is notable - players with that much NHL experience just will receive significant coverage - but the main website that contains the notability-giving sources, Newspapers.com, is unavailable for all users through the Wikipedia Library currently... BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, Newspapers.com is not inaccessible, some users have just had problems making clippings. Bearcat (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: Its inaccessible for me at least - clicking on this url gives me a notice of "www.newspapers.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding" which never changes. I can get to the normal website but of course whenever click on a page I get the usual subscription-required message. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:15, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same issue. Rlendog (talk) 13:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Player easily passes notability guidelines. Searching newspapers.com returns 1,742 hits for "Kerry Ketter" + hockey from 1960 to 2019. There are several larger articles on him, including this example. Plenty of potential for expansion here. Flibirigit (talk) 15:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: While participation standards have been deprecated, it'd be astonishing on the face of it for a player with two top-flight seasons (and who was the first player chosen by a new franchise) under his skates to lack significant coverage, as Flibirigit has already proved. I can only think the nom glanced at a poorly sourced stub, blithely ignored any obligations under WP:BEFORE to research the issue, and charged ahead. Ravenswing 15:55, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will try to find some SIGCOV. Here is one example for starters. This. Cbl62 (talk) 18:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A smaller piece here. Cbl62 (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another one here. Cbl62 (talk) 18:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Meets WP:GNG, per Cbl62's sources, as a former NHL player. Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - an article being a stub is not a valid deletion rationale, and the subject is clearly notable. Rlendog (talk) 14:53, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Snow keep —siro χ o 08:19, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.