Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honda Tadakatsu vs Musashi Miyamoto

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. PhilKnight (talk) 14:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Honda Tadakatsu vs Musashi Miyamoto

The first two individuals may be notable, but there is no reason that they should have a page about a challenge, especially since it's mostly hypothetical and WP:OR. Either delete or merge into articles of the two individuals (if they exist). KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 05:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 01:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Make sure their reputations and the fact that they met in battle are mentioned in the respective articles, but otherwise, yeah, the putative subject (going by the title) is inherently original research. Don't merge or redirect, as a) the material applies pretty much equally to both principals and b) it's not a likely search term. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Do not add the meeting at Sekigahara to the respective articles unless an authoritative source is found. It's not mentioned in the Japanese Wikipedia articles on Musashi and Tadakatsu (as far as I can tell), and, being an extraordinary claim, requires a reliable source. Fg2 (talk) 01:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not mentioned there, then yeah, don't add without a citation. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My hunch is that the story of their meeting in battle comes from popular culture. Authors of jidaigeki (of which I'm a great fan) freely invent stories related to real people, and I suppose manga, anime and video games do too. Fg2 (talk) 11:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete if anything is true here it can be added at Musashi Miyamoto with refs., which this article lacks. JJL (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. JJL (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It should have gone via CSD RogueNinja_talk 19:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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