Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fureai (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, nominator withdrew. —— RyanLupin • (talk) 15:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fureai (band)

No sources to indicate notability per WP:N. Lists 3 albums but no music label; beyond that, no reason to think this might meet WP:MUSIC. ~~Delete.~~ Mango juice^talk 17:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per what MangoJuice said. Also, over half the article's in a foreign language, mostly because it's lists. BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 20:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 01:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: pretty darn stubby, I admit, but clearly meets WP:MUSIC C10 (ending theme for a network television series) and seems to meet C5 with albums from Pony Records (if I've interpretted that BARKS profile correctly). That there's parts still in Japanese is a reason to get it translated, not deleted -- there's even an active translation project hereabouts. —Quasirandom (talk) 02:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:MUSIC. Quote from C10 .."But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article". Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 03:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then, Redirect per WP:BEFORE and, try to remember that AFD is not WP:CLEANUP. Neier (talk) 11:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It meets #5 in that WP:MUSIC. Go look yourself. http://music.ponycanyon.co.jp/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalive (talk • contribs) 09:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not being able to read Japanese, I'm having a hard time with that. But in any case, meeting WP:MUSIC is only one requirement: another is that the content be verifiable, so useful sources must be produced eventually. Mango juice^talk 19:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Kalive: If you could extract a specific URL showing Pony released albums from Fureai, that would help. (I note that a primary source is sufficient to validate the existence of albums from an artist, and that's all that's being asked by WP:MUSIC C5.) —Quasirandom (talk) 18:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any of the links resulting from googling "ふれあい site:ponycanyon.co.jp" would probably suffice, no? Neier (talk) 22:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ponycanyon.co.jp/arts/fureai/bio.html is probably the best one, though. Neier (talk) 22:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. As a Japanese-speaker, I can verify that there is indeed a bio on Fureai (band) on the Pony Canyon website. ~~Unless I'm reading the bio incorrectly, however, it seems that they only cut one album with Pony Canyon (per WP:MUSIC, WP requires "2 or more albums on a major label," doesn't it?).~~ My problem with this band is that after running a LexisNexis and Factiva search in both English and Japanese, I get no positive hits whatsoever (there are a few false positives). That's not a good sign for meeting WP:N or WP:MUSIC criteria. Does King Records have a bio on them? I agree that claims made need to be verifiable in some way. J Readings (talk) 00:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I just re-read the Pony Canyon bio page. It appears that they did cut at least two albums on Pony Canyon, which (unless Pony Canyon is *not* considered a "major label") makes them notable. So the question really becomes: Is Pony Canyon a "major label"? I would think they are. J Readings (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to ouR article on it, "Pony Canyon is a major leader in the music industry in Japan, with its artists regularly at the top of the Japanese charts." —Quasirandom (talk) 00:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing to Keep based on the above. I sincerely hope someone will use the information uncovered here to add reliable info to the article. Mango juice^talk 04:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the link given above as an external link; what's really needed is someone who knows Japanese who can clean it up, translate titles, and add details from the links (as direct references). —Quasirandom (talk) 15:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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