Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erkki Rapo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is no consensus here on whether the article meets the notability guidelines or not, although with arguments leading more towards keeping now than delete. Davewild (talk) 07:47, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Erkki Rapo

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Does not appear to meet GNG, can't find significant coverage for the subject of this unsourced BLP. J04n(talk page) 14:09, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• actually appears that he no longer alive, so not a BLP J04n(talk page) 14:10, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Autograph collector? I see a small article in the Finnish Wikipedia(translation) but it is skimpy. Not a single reference, and only one external link to a newspaper's overall website. The three external links in the Finnish Wikipedia are unhelpful. I don't understand how this article survived here for 10 years. If anyone can come up with sources for this person then fine, keep it, but I am not finding any. Coretheapple (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Sounds neat. It sounds like a cool little "did you know," and perhaps the Finnish Wikipedia has a TV special or something that did a human interest segment, but there are no references, and no claims to notability. I can certainly imagine that an "Inside Entertainment Hollywood People" in America or in syndication in Australia or the UK did a bit, but that probably wouldn't qualify, either. Hithladaeus (talk) 17:24, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment At first glance this article seems hopeless but using google.fi and searching for "Uncle Eki" in Finnish (Eki-setä) yields this for example, published by Finland's largest subscription newspaper. My language skills are not strong enough to expand the search further, but this might be a case of a lack of English sources and the fi.wp article is really not helping. Looking solely at Google it seems this person was quite the personality back in the day. I know "comment" comments in AFDs are really annoying for closing admins, so I'm going to go with weak keep on this one. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:03, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• I know some people will have a say about this, but because it is also on the Finnish Wikipedia, which I definitely did not write, and also because I was the originator and like articles I originated to stay...weak keep. AntonioTio Loco Martin (Dale!) 08:41, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. J04n(talk page) 18:25, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. J04n(talk page) 18:25, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Is notability in any country sufficient for inclusion in English Wikipedia? If so, is there any way to alert any Finnish people on English Wikipedia to this discussion (if not already done)? 31.51.134.46 (talk) 20:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Fails GNG, is an article about an autograph collector who was apparently known within that group of individuals but not much anywhere else. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Uusitorppa, Harri (2004-02-28). "Erkki Rapo: Keräilijä s. 2.7.1946 k. 28.2.2004". Helsingin Sanomat (in Finnish). Archived from the original on 2015-07-10. Retrieved 2015-07-10.
  2. Rantanen, Miska (2004-06-20). "Last scribblings: an autograph hunter's collection goes under the hammer: For Erkki Rapo (1946-2004), gathering autographs was a life's work, and it made him a celebrity of sorts in his own right". Helsingin Sanomat. Archived from the original on 2005-07-28. Retrieved 2005-07-28.
  3. Lindfors, Jukka (2008-05-20). "Eki-setä kohtasi Dylanin" (in Finnish). Yle. Archived from the original on 2015-07-10. Retrieved 2015-07-10.

     Link to Google Translate. The article calls him a "well-known autograph collector" who during his lifetime collected over 10,000 signatures and that in 1986, he reached the Guinness Book of World Records.

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Erkki Rapo to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 05:56, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• That the subject received two obituaries (one in English written by Miska Rantanen and the second in Finnish by Harri Uusitorppa) from the Helsingin Sanomat, "the largest subscription newspaper in Finland and the Nordic countries" (with a circulation of 365,994 in 2011), strongly indicates he's notable. That he then received significant coverage four years after his death in Yle, "Finland's national public-broadcasting company", demonstrates that he clearly passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 05:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - per the links shared by Cunard. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.