Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmanuel College Students' Union

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merged and redirected. Johnleemk | Talk 11:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Emmanuel College Students' Union

We generally don't list student organizations at individual universities unless they really have something going for them. I don't think organizing "Funk da Bar" cuts it. Pilatus 21:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge important bits missing from the Uni article and redirect. There is no need for this AfD. -- JJay 21:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Organizing the weekly pissup is important? OK, it's Cambridge with its known crap nightlife, so you might have a point. Pilatus 21:47, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Did you check? Most of it is already in the Uni article so very little to merge. -- JJay 21:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • If everything is in the article on the college we can delete this without fear of infringing the GFDL. This is plain vanity. WP:NOT a directory of student organizations. Pilatus 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No vanity. Just redirect. It's a key student organization at the University. Universities are more than just buildings. -- JJay 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've seen British universities from the inside, and the Student Union at Emmanuel College is in no way different from any other Student Union in the UK. In fact that's what the article tells us - it manages the weekly bar and is the had organization of the sports and social clubs at that college. If they can't do better and have no other claim to notability than that they exist and do nothign different from the student unions at the other 30 colleges of the University of Cambridge or the student unions at the over 100 universities in Britain the entry ought to go. Pilatus 22:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm happy for you Pilatus, but I've seen British universities from the outside and they mostly look like a bunch of old buildings to me. I find it heartwarming that Cambridge can still muster a few devoted students willing to give their time for the benefit of the other young scholars. That deserves recognition, particularly as the main thing Wikipedia tells me is that Emmanuel College, Cambridge is "noted as the home of a wide variety of duck species". People are just as important as ducks, even in the UK, and it's good to know that a few students are occasionally seen waddling around those hallowed grounds alongside their aquatic friends. I hope you realise how absurd this conversation is getting. -- JJay 00:42, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can see that someone would be interested in Emma's. Now anyone who has seen a UK student union (that's not you) wouldn't care about this particular instance of one. Pilatus 17:17, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Emmanuel College, Cambridge. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-02 21:45Z
• Merge: The Emmanuel College, Cambridge article is nowhere near long enough to justify splitting this yet. Joe D (t) 22:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Brock University Students' Union exists; this one should too. --OntarioQuizzer 03:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge - There's nothing wrong with articles on student unions if they are notable and are long enough to justify a separate article. Melbourne University Student Union, for example, was featured numerous times in Australian media headlines prior to its eventual collapse and its article is at least 8 kB long. But in this case the 1 kB union article can easily be integrated into the 4 kB college article. Cedars 06:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge I don't think this merits its own article. But it'd be nice to keep a redirect and/or fix the link at ECSU -- it's not inconceivable that someone might come here trying to figure out what that acronym means. chrismear 18:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge. This group does not appear to merit its own article. Stifle 01:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Umm...you all may want to see Category:United Kingdom Students' Unions and Category:Students' unions. OCNative 07:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting. However, ECSU is a small union that represents just one college out of the twenty-odd colleges in the University of Cambridge -- CUSU is the overall student union for the university. All of the unions on those category pages represent entire institutions. While I agree that the existence of that page invalidates some of the arguments in this discussion, I still think that the sheer size of ECSU and its relative unimportance compared to a full-sized student union mean that it doesn't merit a separate article. chrismear 12:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• "'Comment"': I think it's helpful....

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.