Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eiji Ubusawa

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eiji Ubusawa

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Boilerplate rationale adapted from my previous AfDs of similar photographer articles (such as Keizaburō Saeki), which itself was largely borrowed from Cckerberos at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion, but have improved and de-orphaned quite a few more when sources have been available.

To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."

In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name. None of the English transliterations turned up anything of use. He does not appear in the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography or Photography in Japan 1853-1912.

I have also checked his Japanese name, but I didn't find anything of substance. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing.

In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted.

Courtesy ping to Hoary, who is knowledgeable on the topic of Japanese photographers, and whose commentary on these AfDs is invaluable to me, especially when it causes me to alter my opinion. (And Hoary, you'll be pleased to know this is the last of the Feb 09 list, so I probably won't be hassling you to any more photographer AfDs). ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an interesting fellow. As his inclusion in the "328" book indicates, at least one print of his is at Syabi. But he's perhaps less known as a photographer than as a popularizer of gum printing. He published several book about these. I looked for one at CiNii (Worldcat is near-useless in Japan) and here it is: after more than four decades after publication, his book Daredemo dekiru gamu inga ("Anybody-can-do-it gum prints") is in the libraries of two universities (one university has two copies). However, I can't imagine that anyone will improve this article any time soon. Therefore delete without prejudicing the fate of any new, intelligent, non-formulaic article on this person. -- Hoary (talk) 03:27, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As I said at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gorō Hobo and then again at Talk:List of photographers, I think quasi-noteworthy people about whom we can't write enough to fill a standalone article do merit inclusion in List of Japanese photographers -- otherwise there's no point having such a list, since a list of items that are required to have standalone articles is redundant with Category:Japanese photographers, and redirects are cheap. That being said, if the majority of the community does not agree with me on this point, I don't think it's worth my time arguing it. So consider me a !vote for "weak redirect", I guess; with the caveat that my preferred redirect target currently has inclusion criteria that mean that unless this subject has a standalone article, all reference to him will be removed from that page anyway, making the redirect useless. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:22, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete maybe he'll be back one day when someone digitizes some sources, but for ow there is nothing to be found online.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to List of Japanese photographers. I found mentions of him at some places very briefly, but as said above, until there some clear sources, the article is useless. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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