Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Ponce de Leon Avenue

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The result was nomination withdrawn. Sufficient notability has been asserted. Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 21:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

East Ponce de Leon Avenue

It's not a state route. We've set precedent for streets like this before: Old 16 Avenue's AFD illustrates my point. Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 22:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no notability being asserted. Also fails WP:RS. LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A street providing the link between two cities is an assertion of notability. --Oakshade (talk) 02:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I could not disagree more. I could list pairs of cities at random, and I would guarantee that the street linking them is not necessarily notable. I don't mean for this to come across too strong on this, and certainly not at you, but that is making an assumption of notability, rather than an assertion. LonelyBeacon (talk) 02:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wiktionary, the definition of "assert" is:

To affirm; to declare with assurance or plainly and strongly; to state positively; to aver; to asseverate.
To maintain; to defend.
To maintain or defend, as a cause or a claim, by words or measures; to vindicate a claim or title to; as, to assert our rights and liberties.

Sure, the word "assume" is not in there, but "claim", "maintain" and "defend" are pretty good synonyms. --Oakshade (talk) 02:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and Rename Ponce de Leon Avenue. The main east-west thoroughfare in Atlanta. It's not me saying it, but Time Magazine; "Ponce de Leon Avenue is Atlanta's main thoroughfare from the east..."[1].The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has a great amount of in-depth secondary coverage on this street (the following are only some examples) [2] [3] [4] [5]. One previous AfD of a street is not setting precedent. Just because one street was deemed non-notable doesn't at all mean every street that the nom is unfamiliar with is non-notable. And a street doesn't have to be a state route to be notable (if that were the case, Sunset Boulevard and Broadway need to go). Don't know why the article creator only focused on the "East" section. --Oakshade (talk) 01:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - this, however, is a horse of a different color. This is an assertion of notability. This information should be added to the street, explaining its historic significance (even has a play named after it). LonelyBeacon (talk) 02:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.