Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eachy

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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eachy

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Seems to be a hoax created in good faith based on this IP request, with a little citogenesis,or at least non-notable. Cannot find the book "Folklore of Northern Britain" cited. Cannot find pre-article mentions of the creature. Cannot even find the putative iker in Skeat.[1] The Bassenthwaite event of 1973 is not credited with being any particular beast, and appears to be a loch-ness type rather than a humanoid. Moreover I am not the first to spot this: https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/the-eachy-of-bassenthwaite.64674/ All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC).[reply]

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  • The Fishing Gazette reports in 1963 that the lake was visited by some skin-divers from Sellafield and that there's likely a ″monster pike″ there, some person takes a picture of something that xe states xe was not able to identify from a distance, and no-one supports this notion at all. This is unverifiable. Uncle G (talk) 17:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Likely mashup/hoax.--Auric talk 14:40, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- This strike me as someone's attempt to create a "Nessie" for a Lake in the Lake District: FRINGE. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:33, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- This website implies there are images from Victorian times. https://www.keswick.org/template/geteventdetails?eventID=344 and it seems to be mentioned on lots of websites. Tullimonstrum (talk) 18:55, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep https://www.lakedistrictwildlifepark.co.uk/news/beast-resurfaces/ mentions it, and how long its been around. People were drawing pictures of it over a century ago. The fact that a news search doesn't show any recent news about it, doesn't matter, it is a notable cryptid. People once believed in these things. Dream Focus 20:39, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    • Back in 2017, do you mean? The Lake District Wildlife Park's article about a school project quotes as pretty much its only source of information the source that we already had here (Jacobsen 1973) which does not say anything about an "Eachy" at all. As I pointed out above, Jacobsen states xe was "never been able to find out what it was". Xe is not actually documenting anything, indeed not even putting forward a hypothesis, apart from the fact that xe took a photograph and never found out what xe had photographed. We've basically got only the Fishing Gazette (with the skin-divers from Sellafield) and Jacobsen here, and people who regurgitate them. The latter puts forward no hypothesis, and the former says that there's likely a "monster pike" in the lake. We don't actually have the original sources even claiming this notion. This is not a documented part of human knowledge, because the documentation does not actually say this in the first place. Uncle G (talk) 21:33, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

***"Bassenthwaite Eachy’, including copies of Victorian images and photographs & newspaper reports of this Beast of Bassenthwaite Lake from the past 50 years,". Their official Facebook page shows they use the creature as a tourist attraction. [2] The National Cryptid Society [3] calls it the "The Beast of Bassenthwaite Lake." This creature has been reported since 1873. Just hard to find all the coverage it got back then. Dream Focus 00:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • This seems to be the same as Each-uisge so just redirect there. Dream Focus 00:11, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • How do you reach the conclusion that the two appear to be the same? Phonetics? We need more than that, surely? - Sitush (talk) 09:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Same nation, same language, both monsters in the water. Someone saw something and said it was an each-uisge, and they called it eachy. Seems obvious enough. Dream Focus 14:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • If you dabbled in the Indian caste area you would know that this type of thinking is pure original research: there are many names which the speculative person might assume to be synonymous but which in fact are not, and equally there are some names for castes which are identical but refer to distinct, very different groups of people. I don't think your rationale is sufficient unless you have a source that makes such a connection. - Sitush (talk) 18:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • This is from one language, in the same time period. Names of things might change over time, but this is clearly just an abbreviation. Dream Focus 18:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
            • I refer you again to the topic of Indian castes. And are you sure that it is from one language in the same time period etc anyway? - Sitush (talk) 19:50, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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