Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dingoes Ate My Baby (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to Oz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer). Involved admin and discussion participant closing with the consent of the nominator and all keep and delete !voters. Jclemens (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dingoes Ate My Baby (band)

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Not only does this fictional band lack real world significance, it even lacks much significance within the Buffy universe. This band was never an important part of any storyline on Buffy, as evidenced by the small number of episode where it appears and the fact that some of its members were never named. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 06:52, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'll see what I can find, but if no in-depth coverage in RS can be found then this could probably serve as a redirect to List of Buffy the Vampire Slayer characters or to the article for Oz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer).Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:14, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
delete with redirect as second option, but in reality who is going to type Dingoes Ate My Baby (band) as a search term?-- The Red Pen of Doom 14:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE for anyone just glancing at the article that 3 of the sources (fully half at this date) DO NOT MENTION THE SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE AT ALL, but are required sourcing to attempt to address WP:BLP issues related to the incident that inspired the band's name. -- The Red Pen of Doom 17:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:BEFORE fail. While the article as nominated failed to mention the critical commentary on the band, it exists: 1, 2, 3. I wouldn't mind seeing it merged into Buffyverse, but the fact is that Buffy studies means that there are multiple, independent, RS'es for almost any significant Buffyverse aspect, DabM included. Jclemens (talk) 21:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, three sources that mention the band in context of Oz being in it and don't say anything about the band itself is reason to keep? I don't think so. Got any sources that actually say anything about the band? D O N D E groovily Talk to me 22:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are more; feel free to search for them yourself. Of course the band is mentioned in the context of Oz... He would be the only series credited case member who was a part of it. Again, not objecting to a merger, but the band meets the GNG. Jclemens (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

it is the burden of the person claiming that viable sources of encyclopedic content exist to actually provide them. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jclemens did exactly that above. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. What Jclemens did was to provide links to places where the name "Dingoes ate my baby" appeared. But as Dondegroovily stated, that was all that was at the end of the links ("Dingoes ate my baby" was a fictional band in the show Buffy), not any viable sources of encyclopedic content / non trivial coverage. And so claim "well, there are others out there. feel free to search yourself" is incomplete and does not meet WP:BURDEN -- The Red Pen of Doom 17:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The first of Jclemens' sources has a section of several pages about the band, starting at p. 123, and much of chapter 18 of the second source is about it. This is far more than trivial coverage. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:13, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In both cases, the sections say quite a bit about music in Buffy, but very little about Dingoes specifically. To keep, we need sources that specifically address Dingoes. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rename/Merge to Music in Buffy the Vampire Slayer? -- The Red Pen of Doom 11:32, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's an article there, but it would probably be better to start it from scratch. Perhaps a redirect is then in order so the history is available to the creator of that article. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 12:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Oz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer). The band has no autonomous role in the series; it might as well be one of Oz's limbs. —Tamfang (talk) 23:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Oz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), as mentioned the band's "notability" is wholly, and only, linked to the character. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:41, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:25, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Did we really need to relist this? Merge to Oz looks to be the consensus, even though it wasn't my idea. Jclemens (talk) 04:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking the same thing. Consensus seems pretty clear to me. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm the only outright "keep", and if The Red Pen of Doom also agrees, that will be both of the straight-up "delete"s, so we can just close it ourselves by consensus to merge. Jclemens (talk) 05:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i am fine w/ a merge-- The Red Pen of Doom

Merge Into Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series). It should be merged inot the parent article, and it does not need its own seperate article. All of the sources listed are from the original article. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.