Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Cade
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. LFaraone 05:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Dan Cade
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No evidence of notability. A PROD was contested without explanation. The PROD reason was "Non-notable minor actor with no evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Sources are IMDb, cast lists, Wikipedia articles, etc." That remains true. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- I have moved the two comments directly below which were misplaced by the same IP, one at the top of this page and one on a talk page that they created.
With regards to the AfD I am neutral. Ivanvector (talk) 20:25, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Moved from above References are now added from British theatre, a reliable, notable source. References have now been added for Metal Hurlant Chronicles, inlcuding Rotten Tomatoes which was also a reliable source for the wikipedia entry of Apocolypse Pompeii. Reliable sources have been added reference Metal Hurlant Chronicles, World Without End and Apocolypse Pompeii.
- The actor Dan Cade is already reference in another Wikipedia article as one of the main cast of Apocolypse Pompeii and IMDB which is a reliable source, plus other third party website showing the actors work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.84.111 (talk) 08:25, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Copied from talk This page should not be deleted due to other reliable references being added and links to other wikipedia articles 90.207.84.111 (talk) 20:14, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Claims to fame are being in a non-notable stage performance (Manfred is a notable literary work but the stage production was apparently not), being in the "cast" of a show (Metal Hurlant Chronicles) which has a different cast for each episode as part of its claim to fame (thus he was only in one episode), and a non-headlining role in a direct-to-DVD "mockbuster" which itself is only marginally notable. I also see no evidence of any kind of cult following for this person. Even if the sources were reliable (they aren't) he would not pass WP:NACTOR at this time. Ivanvector (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Do Not Delete. Additional references have been added regarding the film "Heavy Duty', which is a notable production and reference through the British Film Council, a notable organisation in the UK. The actor played a headlining role in this film, evidenced with his name on the poster. In addition, the actor played the headlining role in the short film "Trent 2 Rent' which was distributed by the Bristish Film Institute into a notable festival, The London Gay and Lesbian Film Festival. In argument to your comment, the actor did star and was one of the main lead roles in the "mockbuster" "Apocalypse Pompeii" which is evidence by the wikipedia articles and other sources showing him in the main lead cast list, which although in your opinion is only marginally notable, is nevertheless still notable. In addition, other notable references have been added with reference to significant roles in notable productions such as "Borgia", "world Without End", "Automata" and "Malavita". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.84.111 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 8 June 2014
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete – Agree with Ivanvector. Hasn't done too much so far; don't think it passes WP:NACTOR. United States Man (talk) 03:57, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Do Not Delete. With regards to the above comment 'you do not think', therefore you are unsure. This article should not be deleted. It should be enhanced. There are reliable third party sources. The actor has not only been in notable TV series and movies, but has had leading roles in notable movies, including "Apocalypse Pompeii", which is even listed on Wikipedia and past the notable test for it to become an article. Dan Cade is listed in the main cast list of stars for that movie. This is just one piece of evidence that the actor is notable. There are several others listed in the article that confirms notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.84.111 (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
— Duplicate !vote: 90.207.84.111 (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.
- WP:NACTOR requires that an actor has played a significant role in several notable productions. Sites like IMDb (and its French language equivalent) rely on non-verified user-submitted content and are thus not acceptable as reliable sources. Sites like the British Film Institute and the various film festivals are reliable for determining that a production exists, but not for determining notability. For notability, we require significant coverage in independent, secondary sources. Of the additional "significant" roles that you posted, I couldn't find verifiable evidence that his role was significant, or even that the production exists at all. The wikilinks are to the wrong articles, and the only one where it's apparent that he had any role was in Malavita (2013 film) where he played the role of "BBQ guest". Hardly a significant role. Ivanvector (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC).
- You are not looking at the correct links. There are several significant productions that the actr has played significant roles in. "World Without End' is reference as an example of this. The actor has had many more. You can see by following the links correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.84.111 (talk) 09:57, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NACTOR requires that an actor has played a significant role in several notable productions. Sites like IMDb (and its French language equivalent) rely on non-verified user-submitted content and are thus not acceptable as reliable sources. Sites like the British Film Institute and the various film festivals are reliable for determining that a production exists, but not for determining notability. For notability, we require significant coverage in independent, secondary sources. Of the additional "significant" roles that you posted, I couldn't find verifiable evidence that his role was significant, or even that the production exists at all. The wikilinks are to the wrong articles, and the only one where it's apparent that he had any role was in Malavita (2013 film) where he played the role of "BBQ guest". Hardly a significant role. Ivanvector (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC).
- Delete Run-of-the mill actor who has not yet had enough major roles to pass notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:13, 12 June 2014 (UTC).
- HE IS LISTED AS AN ACTOR IN NOTABLE PRODUCTIONS AND IS LINKED ON WIKIPEDIA AS A TARRING CAST MEMBER IN APOCALYPSE POMPEII. HE PASSES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.84.111 (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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