Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brock (Pokémon)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 18:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brock (Pokémon)

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Yet another biography of fictional character that Is 90% unreferenced. Yes, it has a critical reception section that has some refs, but it's very short, and thus failing Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). The reception is valuable and could be merged to List of Pokemon characters, or another relevant article, but the remaining 90% of content does not belong here (it is already much better covered at a relevant wikia article. ) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:50, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:59, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

* Delete Yet another reason Wikipedia isn't taken seriously as an encyclopedia. Truth to the Fourth Power (talk) 21:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• The fact that you WP:DONTLIKE the subject matter is not a valid reason for deletion. 206.41.25.114 (talk) 14:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Selectivemerge to List of Pokémon characters per nom. Somewhat on the fence with this one. I was leaning towards a weak keep, but then I realized that he hasn't really made much of an impact. There is some reception, but I don't think it's really enough for a separate article. He could instead warrant a longer section in the aforementioned link. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:08, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I'm on the fence here as well. On one hand, it could definitely use some cleanup. On the other hand, its looks like two separately published books discuss him in regards to his real-world relationship to Japanese culture. That could be argued to prove notability. Sergecross73 msg me 15:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to List of Pokémon characters, I don't see enough notability for a stand alone article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - The List of Pokémon anime characters is already nearing WP:TOOLONG. The Misty (Pokémon) article shows that enough refs likely exist if someone does the research (especially if done by someone who can read Japanese), given that Block plays a bigger part in the five Pokémon series, seventeen movies, six video game series, etc. At the worst, Merge with redirect. VMS Mosaic (talk) 02:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep - I really strongly doubt that insufficient coverage exists for one of the most important characters in arguably one of the most famous, if not the most famous, anime series in the Western world. The article already shows the analysis of the character exists in printed sources, and it's very likely that there's more, both in English and Japanese (and possibly other languages as well?). Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 10:32, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Major character from possibly the most well known anime in the western world. Yes, the article is not well cited, but this could be improved. Improve the article as it is definitely notable, rather than forcing anyone who wants to write a good article to start from scratch. Kavidun (talk) 15:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I find myself swayed by Satellizer's stance. There's already some coverage in there, and there's bound to be more considering the subject. Keep, but add some clean up tags. Sergecross73 msg me 19:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I am sure there is a lot of references can be found. Even if those are lacking, the primary source could be used which is the anime itself to probably give enough substance to make it worthwhile considering in how many episodes he has been and not to forget the movies.(Just thinking of going over 800 episodes does send a shiver down my spine) However, the thing that is mostly lacking and that is the case with almost all the pokemon articles. Are willing serious editors that are willing to stick a huge bit of free time in re-working these articles in a better more sourced shape. NathanWubs (talk) 23:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Brock is a major character and deserves his own page. I'm sure sources could be found that would make this pages' standing more firm. Bensci54 (talk) 04:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Keep in mind this is not a vote, but a discussion, and so far I am not seeing any valid counteraguments. Rather than saying "WP:ITSIMPORTANT and therefore there must be more reliable sources", it would be nice if somebody pointed to a single reliable source that the article is not using... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• The proposal that there is already a small amount of sources available, and that said sources (Print Media) indicate that there's likely to be more out there, is, in fact, a valid stance. These discussions are based on their potential rather than just their current status. I can do some digging for sources to be more persuasive, sure, but I don't think its accurate to discount this stance wholesale. Sergecross73 msg me 15:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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