Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beware (Iz*One song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Twelve (Iz*One album). You can undo if things change without needing to ask Spartaz ^Humbug! 17:37, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beware (Iz*One song)

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article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject Bill Cipher, Stan, Twins, Dipper - Gravity falls and J.Smile 14:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 15:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 15:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (undecided) - It is confirmed as an upcoming release in about two weeks and it will probably hit the Korean charts, like most of this group's other releases. Normally I would say "delete" because it is a future item, but the situation will surely change two weeks from now. We could just let it go and revisit the page later if the song somehow flops. ☆ DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) ☆ 18:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The voter below raises a great point about the poor reasoning of the nomination. This could possibly be closed on procedural grounds. ☆ DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) ☆ 13:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NSONG. Technically we should redirect the title to the album or group until the song's release, at which point it will hit the charts or unexpectedly fail, either way generating the qualifying coverage for an article. But technically the nominator has not provided a valid rationale for deletion, since the topic of this article is a song, not a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble. Are kpop/jpop articles terrible? Yes. Are they a battleground for competing promoters and fans whose English language skills confine them to copy/pasting Google Translated press releases and appending entries to endless lists of tedious minutiae? Yes. Does A7 apply to songs? Regrettably, no. But this song will pass NSONG right around the time this AfD is over, meaning that even if is deleted here it will just be recreated. Indignant Flamingo (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It’s probably not a very good idea to just presume it will eventually become notable enough. Foxnpichu (talk) 10:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft. Move it to the draft space as it is not yet notable, but is likely to become so when it releases so there is no point in deleting it just to remake it shortly after. If it proves notability once released, move it from a draft back to an article. Nangears (talk) 01:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have another idea; Redirect to Iz*One - if it becomes notable, just revert the redirect. If not, then no damage is done. Foxnpichu (talk) 10:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree - as per WP:Redirects are cheap - Arjayay (talk) 20:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Twelve (Iz*One album): Barely found anything about the song aside from an allkpop article. Definitely WP:TOOSOON. It can be restored once the song is notable enough upon its release. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 08:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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