Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akishige Kaneda

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - player is not yet notable. Recreate when and if notability is established. Frank | talk 16:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Akishige Kaneda

Article fails WP:N and WP:ATHLETE because the athlete has never played in a fully-pro league Jogurney (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Jogurney (talk) 19:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Nom is flawed. His team is in the J League, which is fully professional (see [[1]] for further details on japanese football system). --C S (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kaneda has never appeared in a league match (he has made the substitute's bench as the back-up goalkeeper but has zero minutes of playing time). The article could be re-created at some point in the future if he gets playing time in a fully-pro league or if sources are found which satisfy WP:N. As of today, that is not the case and there is no flaw in the nomination. Jogurney (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as above Delete - as below -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ - nom is not flawed. Nom states "the athlete has never played in a fully-pro league" and that is true, he may be on the books of a J League team but he has never played a competitive match for them (see the stats in his infobox) and therefore fails WP:ATHLETE until such time as he does -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I apologize if that's what the nominator meant. But it is still wrong. He has been subbed in on various occasions. See the official J League appearance record for 2009 [2], which is linked from the article. The infobox is out of date. Incidentally, nominating for deletion the article on a new, young player (19 years old), because he simply hasn't appeared in a pro game yet, even though most likely he will in just a few months (which is what happened), seems overly deletionist. --C S (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He was never subbed into a match. Please check the link and you will see he has zero minutes playing time. Jogurney (talk) 22:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Sorry I missed the play time column the first time. It does look like he has 0 minutes. Comment above struck. --C S (talk) 00:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- - I can't open that link, but I'll take your word for it that he has in fact played and change my !vote to ~~keep~~ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Change back to delete in view of revised info -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 05:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The J-League site confirms that he has only been an unused substitute so far, and until he makes his first professional appearance he fails WP:ATHLETE. He would never be notable then. This article can easily be recreated if and when he makes his debut. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 08:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; fails WP:ATHLETE. Giant Snowman 11:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE --Angelo (talk) 08:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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