Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abimbola Fernandez

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The result was merge to Antonio Deinde Fernandez. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Abimbola Fernandez

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Individual of highly dubious notability. Not notable as a singer. Career is limited to minor backing vocals for Cobra Starship ([1] allmusic does not even credit her), an unsuccessful project in Madame Luxe, and part of a publicity stunt in Pink Grenade. Not notable as a daughter, notability is not inherited. Not notable as a model, just another working model. That just leaves coverage. Many of the sources are about her reported parents and do not even mention her and are there to puff up this bio. The Punch article is by her, not independent. The news.com.au is just a reprint of the New York Post article. That leaves the New York Post and Daily Mail Online promotional puff pieces. Both sensationalist publications that should be treated with skepticism. The latter is also largely a reprint of the former, so that's really just one article, which is essentially one event. The article is are largely based on PR material from SMH Records so is liable to be filled with deception. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:51, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete a very minor singer who comes no where close to being notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Her father is almost certainly notable even though he doesn't have an article. I don't think I know enough about Nigerian/Yoruban culture, royalty, etc, to create one but here are some sources on him[2][3][4][5][6][7]. She does have coverage in Daily Mail, New York Post, Mirror[8], Nigerian Herald[9], and brief stories on lots of music blogs, but there's very little that's of use, and a lot is about her father or where she's singing on somebody else's record. Someone write Antonio Deinde Fernandez and mention her there. Colapeninsula (talk) 13:27, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Colapeninsula: I wrote the article about her father today and I mention her there. What do you think? Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 19:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Merge per significant coverages in multiple independent reliable sources. Subject of the article obviously meet WP:BASIC. I found The Punch News, Mobile News, The Nation Newspaper,Africa Top Success, The Mirror, Pan African Markets, YNaija,Rhodies World, Daily Records, Bellanaija, Daily Entertainment News, US Africa News, Hype Magazine, Encomium Magazine, Nigeria headlines, Brim times, to mention few. Lolz! Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 13:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What you list as Nigeria Headlines is actually from The Nation [10] and is a meaningless trivial piece. There's nothing on the Encomium link. The Punch article as mentioned above is by her, not independent. Brimtime is just a blog that says the New York Post article exists. Hype is another rehash of the New York Post article. Daily Entertainment news (your daily dose of gossip) is another rehash of the New York Post article. Rhodies World is the same stuff as in the New York Post. Daily Records is another rehash of the New York Post article. Bella Naija is just her talking about herself. The Mirror is another rehash of the New York Post article. Pan African Markets is another rehash of the New York Post article. YNaija is the same stuff as in the New York Post. Mobile News is another rehash of the New York Post article. Africa Top Success is the same stuff as in the New York Post. It all still comes back to one PR driven puff piece. Essentially a publicity event that did not garner continued coverage so is not an appropriate topic for an article. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:28, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Articles cannot be deleted on the basis of the fact that one or more of its reliable sources discussed the same topic in as much as the sources are reliable sources. You mentioned that, she talked about herself in the "Punch Newspaper" and "bella Naija", right? If I may ask you, is she one of the editorial team? Is she the owner of the punch Newspaper? Did she published it herself? Is the Punch Newspaper and bella Naija not reliable sources? Is New York Post not a reliable source? Is " Daily Entertainment news" not a reliable source? Is the "Mirror" not a reliable source? Is " Pan African Markets " not a reliable source? Is "Rhodies World" not a Reliable Source? Is YNaija not a reliable source? You cannot be serious! Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 13:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice misdirection there, pretending I've said something i never did. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We certainly cannot delete this one. The worst that can happen is to merge it with her father's article. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 19:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - as far as I can see, all of the news stories are from January/February 2014 and are derivatives of the NY Post article. As such, they are considered the same source. So the depth of coverage is not there. —Мандичка^YO 😜 02:16, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We certainly cannot delete this one. The worst that can happen is to merge it with her father's article. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 19:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Possibly a case of WP:TOOSOON. The current sources either for Abimbola Fernandez or Bim Fernandez do not constitute significant, independent coverage. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to her father's article, Antonio Deinde Fernandez. I think he is clearly notable; she is probably not quite there yet. But a merge/redirect will retain the article history for possible recreation if she becomes more notable later. BTW, Wikic¤l¤gy, I see that you also created an article about her mother, but she does not appear to be independently notable and I have proposed redirecting/merging that article to the article about Antonio. --MelanieN (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the proposal, MelanieN. I have no objection to your proposer and I'm fully in support of it and this should be Merge too. I will leave a comment at Aduke Fernandez's talk page. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 09:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.