Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 USS Harry S. Truman E-2C crash

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 09:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2007 USS Harry S. Truman E-2C crash

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The article is concerned with a crash that does not meet notability guidelines. WP:AIRCRASH states that military aircraft crashes are rarely deserving of their own articles and I see nothing in this, such that it should be one of those rare articles. Is it the first involving the type; no. Is it the deadliest; given there have been prior fatal accidents and the normal crew is five, probably not. Has it resulted in changes in procedures etc.; apparently not. YSSYguy (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Very sad that these young men died. But about 5% of Americans do die in accidents, so about 150,000 a year. This accident is just not that notable.Wolfview (talk) 07:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:AIRCRASH. Not a notable military accident. Mjroots (talk) 08:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete tragic news item, but no indications of notability. --SPhilbrick T 12:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. - BilCat (talk) 14:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: seems to lack notability as an aviation incident and as a military event. bahamut0013^words _deeds 00:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTMEMORIAL. 76.66.193.119 (talk) 06:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The reason this crash is notable is because the E-2C is usually such a safe aircraft. Also i have found and added ref`s. The article can be expanded upon and a quick google news check brings up plenty of references mark nutley (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment just about all aircraft types are usually safe, and as several E-2s have been lost due to in-flight fires it is arguably less safe than many other types. I cannot see from available resources that the issue with the AoA indicator the previous day has much bearing on the accident; while I am not familiar with US Navy carrier take-off procedures, I would think that the pilot would be looking at other instruments immediately after a cat shot at night, such as the attitude indicator, altimeter and VSI. The google news check tends to suggest that the article runs foul of WP:NOTNEWS. YSSYguy (talk) 08:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm the one who started this article, but the policy does appear to state that single aircraft military crashes don't usually merit separate articles. There are exceptions, but I don't think this article is one of them. Cla68 (talk) 09:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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