User talk:TAnthony/Archive 7

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Sorry, I'm not sure how to leave a "thanks" tag in the talk pages, but thank you for adding Alice Heine to the list of Americans who married into European noble/royal families. Mpaniello (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, the inclusion of birth, death and age parameters in character infoboxes has been deprecated by consensus for awhile, thru various discussions. Fictional characters are not born and do not die, they exist in the perpetual present. This kind of info has been deemed trivial, and much of the time requires original research to determine. If you feel strongly about this, please feel free to open a discussion at Template talk:Infobox character, but in the meantime the articles you've edited should remain at the status quo. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 15:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I wanted to comment on your edit summary at Darth Vader, in which you make some good points:

• The |home= and |residence= and related parameters were removed from {{Infobox character}} and {{Infobox soap character}} because that info was deemed trivial/fancruft. At some point, I believe WikiProject Star Wars had a discussion that determined that "homeworld" was helpful information for understanding/classifying Star Wars characters, and this info was added using the custom parameters. I know |homeworld= is an accepted parameter in {{Infobox comics character}}, which was not merged into {{Infobox character}} when may other genre-specific infobox templates were.
• The |weapon= parameter was inherited in the merge of {{Infobox video game character}} into {{Infobox character}}, and is used in some video game franchises. Yes, I believe it's being misused in Star Wars character articles.
• |family= and |affiliation= are longstanding, accepted parameters for in-universe info deemed appropriate for character articles.
• I also have an issue with the custom parameters being used for "Dyad", "Master" and "Apprentice" information, but I haven't been part of any discussion on it and am not sure if there has been one.

I encourage you to bring any of this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Wars if you'd like a change, but birth/date/age is a non-starter because it has been rejected at a higher level than this project. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 16:14, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I've just nominated Interview with the Vampire (Original Television Series Soundtrack) for Good Articles. I saw you have made contributions to The Vampire Chronicles in the past, so I reckoned you may be interested in reviewing this. I'd be so grateful. If all goes well, I'm planning to bring other Interview with the Vampire (TV series) related articles to GA. Cheers. – Yolo4A4Lo (talk) 15:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I can't find any reliable sources because there are no sources calling it Hard Fantasy. However, I am a huge fan of the Hard Fantasy genre and I'm reading the book and can tell that it is the textbook definition of Hard Fantasy. I'm trying to get enough attention to this topic for there to be sources saying that Shadow and Bone is Hard Fantasy. Question, how do I make a reliable source, How do I get enough attention for people and reliable sources to start calling the series Hard Fantasy? Nosecone33 (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Nosecone33: Hey there, thanks for the message. I don't disagree with you that the series could be hard fantasy, but you've proven my point in that determining genres for books/TV/films can be very interpretive. And editors adding our own analysis and interpretations without reliable sources coming to the same conclusions violates Wikipedia:No original research, even if those conclusions seem obvious to us. Editors are historically touchy about media genres, so I think your next best step would be to start a discussion at Talk:Shadow and Bone. Maybe you can get consensus that adding this genre is appropriate, or maybe another editor will introduce a reliable source you may have missed. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 15:10, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

FYI, the first three seasons of Titans were already released on DVD and Blu-ray. Both formats are not Warner Archive titles as in manufacture-on-demand pressed discs that are sold online and not at a retailer. If you look at a season of a specific show, they always include the DVD cover if there is one. Cosmic2992 (talk) 19:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@Cosmic2992 Can you cite a consensus discussion for this idea? -- Alex_21 _TALK 00:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Alex 21: I started a discussion open this at Talk:Titans_(2018_TV_series)#Season_art.— TAnthony^Talk 01:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your editing. It was a good impression of you as usual. Christbueze (talk) 22:51, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Re: [1]. I'd suggest REFUNDing the List of Verbotene Liebe characters which if anyone has issues with could go to AfD. But it's weird to have a list of minor characters while the list of major, presumably, ones, is deleted... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I did have List of Verbotene Liebe characters undeleted (and then redirected it) because I wanted to see if the format was similar to this one and what content was included, but as you know it was a bare list basically redundant of List of Verbotene Liebe cast members. I preserved List of Verbotene Liebe minor characters to see if any of the citations that aren't irretrievably dead could be used in the cast members list, and if some of the content would be helpful in my goal to write a character overview section for the main article. In any case, I'm going to redirect the minor character list within the next few days after I redirect the many redirects to it. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 16:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I keep prodding characters from that series, I fear none are notable and we just need to redirect them to the list or the main article about the series (if they are even mentioned there... might not be true for the minor ones). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah obviously there are no editors at English Wikipedia really interested in researching the German sources to improve these articles. As a matter of fact, they appear to have all been created in the 2000s by Lucaslovespeyton, who has been inactive since January 2021. Many/most of the US soap character articles were just as poorly sourced and plot-heavy as these back in the day until some real editors came along and made significant improvements. Anyway, I'm working on a joint article for Oliver Sabel and Christian Mann, who are of note to the LGBTQ community, and next I'd like to do something that addresses other notable characters from the series. I just haven't figured out yet what that should be lol.— TAnthony^Talk 21:27, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

IMHO the best thing to do is to have a section about characters in the main article. It can also be split into a list of characters, but those have an iffy existence when GNG/NLIST is concerned sometimes. Sadly, I don't speak German so I can't help much with that show. Feel free to hit me whenever a Polish language topic comes up; recently I nominated some Polish TV characters on pl wiki and got trouted for it (at least some of them were improved a bit... pl wiki is pretty inclusionist when it comes to Polish fiction topics, no surprise really... but sometimes good sources can be found in native languages, that's very true). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:31, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Should I prod the reminder of the articles about those characters, or do you think we can boldly redirect them to the list of all characters? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'm actively working on Tanja von Lahnstein, but I've redirected all of the other problematic articles except Clarissa von Anstetten, which I'll tackle next. Then I plan to start a proper List of Verbotene Liebe characters covering major characters in a more standard form. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 17:11, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

The category should be "Reality television series episode redirects to lists" following Category:Reality television series. Gonnym (talk) 20:15, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Good point. I'll move it and correct the pages/categories I've added to it. Thanks!— TAnthony^Talk 20:18, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

TAnthony, hi, I just wanted to understand the logic of removing the Biography WP.

For instance, you're cut it from Johan Fredrik Martin, leaving only WP Sweden (which could indicate humans, but could also mean places, culture, technology or whatever from that country), and WP Visual arts (which could again possibly mean the presence of a human, but could also imply paint, bronze, photography, etc). So I am left wondering in which way WP Biography is redundant? The project appears to be both extant and important, and in this case at least also necessary. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: Thanks for your message, and I must apologize. My edit was meant to remove the duplicate occurrence of {{WikiProject Visual arts}}, but it appears I also took away {{WikiProject Biography}} in error. I've fixed that. I think it was human error (darn trackpad!) rather than a problem with the AWB assist but I'll go back and check other edits. Thanks again.— TAnthony^Talk 16:07, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Hey! I hope you are doing well. I hope you don't get annoyed at me writing this. I wanted to ask you something about collaborating (potentially) on an article but I was unsure, so I was wondering whether to write on here or if it would be simpler to email you? Whichever you prefer. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Hey, this is unrelated to the above message but I was considering *potentially* starting a The Bold and the Beautiful articles related taskforce (similarly to how Emmerdale has one). If I did start one, would you be interested? DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, feel free to chat with me here. As far as B&B goes, I've never actually watched an episode so I don't think it's something I'd want to jump in on.— TAnthony^Talk 14:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

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_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:05, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

I've stubbed it, but it could use more sources per my comment on talk about borderline notability. Maybe you'd have some sources? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

So I did some digging into the show in Google Newspaper's archives and I've gathered that some stations (Chicago and Pittsburgh for one), received the 21 episodes in the very early part of 1970. However, it looks like nationwide PBS stations syndicated the show between October 1971 and February 1972, most likely at a pace of one per week. Will look for more. Mike H. Fierce! 11:54, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I see you've already looked through the archives for Ebony. Did you also look at JET? I can look at that if you haven't. Mike H. Fierce! 11:57, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I didn't create the draft and haven't done any work on it yet, I just monitor Wikipedia:WikiProject Soap Operas/Article alerts and came across it. So no I haven't looked thru the Ebony archives. But I'm really interested in the topic.— TAnthony^Talk 15:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

You inspired me to edit this morning and I added the character summary for Kim Douglas on the Days character side-page. I hadn't really contributed much in a while. I wish I could find sourcing on the AAPI bit, even though I know for a fact that's true because there hadn't been...I don't think anyone other than white people on the show until that point. Mike H. Fierce! 16:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know, as I was finishing up a new article of my own Women Today, that I read your final copy of Bird of the Iron Feather and I thought it was great. Mike H. Fierce! 12:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

When you get a second, please can you re-add the collapsible feature back to the infobox? – Meena • 22:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

I was wondering, do you think we should rename Category:Sitcom episode redirects to lists to Category:Comedy television episode redirects to lists? I'm not sure if every entry there is actually a sitcom. Gonnym (talk) 19:43, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Good idea, the catgeory does seem to have evolved beyond sitcoms. And that would solve my dilemma of where to put Category:Epic Rap Battles of History episode redirects to lists. LOL. — TAnthony^Talk 19:57, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

So we won't have to waste a week at CfD and to keep history as close, create the new category and I'll use AWB to move the entries. I think that's better than using the official process seeing as it's just you and me in the edit history there. Gonnym (talk) 20:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done — TAnthony^Talk 22:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Could you move the episode redirects of Jessica Jones (season 3) from "A.K.A" to "A.K.A." without leaving a redirect? Gonnym (talk) 13:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done. And FYI, I'm still working on the redirect list between other editing tasks.— TAnthony^Talk 14:46, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah I have the categories on watch lists so I see changes there. And I completely understand taking breaks. I was working for the past 1-2 months on a set of pages and had to take breaks between them. Gonnym (talk) 16:07, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

BTW Qwerfjkl (bot) will now help fix episode redirect targets so you'll probably see it on watchlists (or not maybe since it has a bot flag. Not sure...). An example edit is this. Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

In working through the October NPP backlog drive I missed that your redirect had been turned into an article by another editor - I've restored the redirect. Apologies for any confusion. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

		The Real-world perspective Barnstar
		For excellent work on Bird of the Iron Feather. Thank you for rescuing that draft and transforming it into a detailed and quality article. Kudos, gobonobo + c 05:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, TAnthony,

Sorry to clutter up your User talk page with all of these speedy deletion, CSD C1 notifications. I don't understand how all of these redirects categories emptied out on the same day. When I looked to see who had emptied them, the tool I used didn't show anything which is what happens if the pages are deleted. So are you aware of a big purge of episode redirect pages? Ordinarily when this many categories on the same subject empty out, it's because an editor is doing some recategorizing but that doesn't seem to be happening here. Just curious. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:02, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: I was perplexed as well, but it seems that Explicit has retroactively mass-deleted unused redirects created by blocked editor TotalTruthTeller24 (see A Hope in Hell).— TAnthony^Talk 06:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

I got the two reviews and created the entry (waiting for an admin to move it from User:Piotrus/Songs). If you have anything else that mentions this book, feel free to add - I think we can WP:DYK it. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

could you fix the script error in this category? Frietjes (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Reverted my change. Thanks!— TAnthony^Talk 17:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, in case you are bored and looking for more untagged episode redirects, User:Gonnym/episode redirects has a (looong) list of episode redirects without redirect categories. I thought the list would be shorter and I'd be able to handle it, but it's way to long for me :) Gonnym (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Why are you so good to me? LOL. Consider it done. — TAnthony^Talk 15:33, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

You are a brave person! Gonnym (talk) 16:19, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

So I'm realizing that many (most?) of these redirects are not assigned to TV episode categories for a reason. As far as I know, in practice we try to only put "valid" (my word) redirects into the series categories. So redirects with incorrect capitalization, misspelling, unnecessary disambiguation etc. go into those redirect categories but not into the series. I've been operating this way for years, I believe Xezbeth originally schooled me on that but I don't know if there is currently a guideline. Anyway, I'm going to start going through these by series and see what's what, I'm sure there are more than a few that need Rcats and/or templates.— TAnthony^Talk 16:33, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Maybe we should modify Template:R from television episode to have a |catgory=no or |nocat=yes parameter that when set disables the category (Redirects from episodes) but still places the banner? Seems strange not to tag these just because they aren't the main redirect version. It also makes it harder for us to find valid redirects without catgories. Gonnym (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I'm guessing it was just to make the series categories more manageable for editors using them for article creation? Hopefully Xezbeth will chime in at some point. In any case, would it be weird to create a category like Category:Malformed television episodes redirects to lists or something like that (not sure malformed is the right word) and just put the "invalid" redirects into that?— TAnthony^Talk 18:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah that can be done. My question is what counts as malformed? Are Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation malformed? Are we just grouping all non-primary redirects (if so then malformed isn't a good word)? Gonnym (talk) 18:05, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

The way I have always thought of it is that the "main" redirect is the one where a hypothetical article would be situated. That main redirect would have the relevant categories and be linked via Wikidata where applicable. The other redirects would point to that hypothetical article if it existed and so would use Template:R avoided double redirect along with any other relevant templates be it misspelling, incorrect disambiguation, alternate name or what have you. I haven't messed with redirects for a few years so I don't know how often these templates are being used. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah there are many, many situations where you have multiple redirects for the same episode pointing to a list, one "main" and then some with unnecessary or incorrect disambiguation, miscapitalization, etc.— TAnthony^Talk 20:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

If my calculations are correct, you've already cleared around 7k from the list. That's amazing! Gonnym (talk) 17:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Haha yeah, but I started with the series that had larger amounts of redirects, I'm kind of down to the smaller bits and that will take longer. But I decided that it makes the most sense to have even the "malformed" redirects in the series categories.— TAnthony^Talk 18:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Got a few big chunks left with Buffy and Friends :) Gonnym (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

New batch at User:Gonnym/episode redirects :) Gonnym (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonnym: How can the bot criteria be adjusted/subverted to keep non-episode items like Shirley Bassett from coming up every time? Perhaps I can add something when I review them that could prompt them to be skipped during the next bot run?— TAnthony^Talk 15:34, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking about that also. I currently don't have an idea for that current example. Maybe once the list is smaller we can see some kind of pattern and be able to exclude some from the list based on that. Gonnym (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Another update to the list. To remove incorrect entries from future batches they should be tagged with one of the following:

{{R from television program}}, {{R from film}}, {{R from album}}, {{R from work}}, {{R from fictional character}}, {{R from fictional element}}, or {{R from fictional location}}. That should take care of most of the non-episode entries I believe. Gonnym (talk) 17:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I was looking at Category:Product and attraction character redirects to lists and it seems to be very misused with blanket tagging categories. If this category is kept it should include only characters that are unique to product or attractions. What do you think? Gonnym (talk) 16:46, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Looks like somebody was putting new Disney animated film categories in there this weekend but I fixed that. Otherwise, the issue is that franchises like Transformers and My Little Pony are prominent as both products and films/TV series.— TAnthony^Talk 19:05, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Doctor Who location redirects has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I hope this message finds you well. I've noticed your contributions to Dune (2021 film) and am reaching out to discuss a potential collaboration in enhancing the article to GA status. I believe we are very close and that with your help, we could do so as promoting the article to a GAN was an ambition of mine for a decent while. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this idea. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello,

I wasn't aware of the fact that superhero categories aren't added directly; sorry about all those edits. Should I start self-reverting? Luke10.27 (talk) 22:01, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. If you look at a random selection of DC superhero articles, their affiliations are noted in infoboxes and navboxes but not ussing categories. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 22:02, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

If you're interested, some editors at WikiProject Drag Race are seeking help with the creation of List of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula episodes. Asking since I know you've helped with similar lists before. Thanks and happy editing either way! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Army_F.C.#

If can add colour code to few missing infobox spots (see history log, tnx again) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.235.90 (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Those edits were challenged by other editors with sockpuppet allegations, so no I'm not getting involved with that. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 16:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

at least remove jersey completely? (socks1 / leftarm 2 should not stay empty, thats such simple logic). 93.138.235.90 (talk) 16:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)