User talk:Rodrunner17

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Is it reliable and notable if i use reference from this web http://zeroboards.net/ in review? Rodrunner17 (talk) 02:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not, because that is a blog site and anyone could say anything on it. Therefore it is not a reliable source. Sorry.  Chzz  ►  02:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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what do u think about http://gamelist.bbgsite.com/goto/conra.shtml ? Just found it frm google

As above. Not an RS.  Chzz  ►  04:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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what do u think about http://www.techcrunch.com/ ?

Please don't remove comments from an ongoing helpme; it will be easier for other helpers to see what has happened before.

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Please give a link to the reference that you think is appropriate, rather than the homepage of a website. (But, looking at that page, I doubt it is a reliable source; have you actually read WP:RS ?

Thanks,  Chzz  ►  04:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you doubt, you should delete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERepublik

Please sign your messages with ~~~~ :-)

Regarding ERepublik, please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. I'll check that article now, and see if it needs deleting. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  04:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having checked, there are plenty of reliable sources for ERepublik for example google news. The present article may need work, but it's certainly a notable product.  Chzz  ►  04:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of ways to do this, some are simple, some more complex.

Personally, I like using citation templates, and fill in as much as I possibly can; maybe a bit more work, but I think it looks better. You have a <REF> at the start, then a suitable cite tag, then </REF>. An example usage is;

<ref>
{{Citation
 | last = Preston
 | first = Peter
 | title = D. H. Lawrence in the modern world
 | last2 = Hoare
 | first2 = Peter
 | author2-link =
 | publication-date = 1989
 | edition = illustrated
 | place = [[Cambridge]], [England]
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
 | url = http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=J5nRoaOwkPMC&printsec=frontcover#PPA125,M1
 | accessdate = 2008-05-11
}}
</ref>

For all the possible things to include, see Template:Citation

Of course, you don't have to put everything in, just whatever you can. The above example is a book, but I've included a 'convenience link' to a website that displays it.

Then, at the end of the document (but before any 'category' tags), you need a references section. You just put,

== References ==

{{reflist}}

Hard work? - help is at hand. There are lots of tools that create cite tags automagically. Personally, I use Zotero for the web links, and the cite book generator for books.

I also recommend you look at other articles and copy from them - especially featured articles, which should have good refs.

Hope this help, cheers,  Chzz  ►  04:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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What if i want to cite at book with ISBN 978-979-27-0567-6 (written in indonesia lang) ?

i use your http://tools.wikimedia.pl/~holek/isbn.php but it seems didnt work

Hi again.

Please start new conversations (like this) in a new section at the end of the page, and also please remember to 'sing' your messages with ~~~~.

I'll have a look at that book thing now...and reply here in a few minutes.  Chzz  ►  05:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So - the tool isn't perfect (by a long way) - it's just a shortcut, and can be useful. You always need to check it's results. In this case, I tried to find info on the book in a few other places, including Amazon, but I was unable to do so. If you actually have the book though, and are citing it, you could just fill in the information by hand, like this;

{{ Citation
 | last=Amperiyanto
 | first=Tri
 | title=Membuat & Membasmi Worm Virus
 | publisher=Elex Media Komputindo
 | place=Jakarta
 | year=2007
 | url = http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5XvPVa1LMoMC
 | accessdate = 2008-01-28
 | isbn = 978-979-27-0567-6
 | language = [[Indonesian language|Indonesian]]
 }}

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  05:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if i use non-english book as a ref of an article, how can you verify that? do u guys understand indonesia lang?

i mean, i can just pretend that reference is in that book (which actually it doesnt exist in that book) since you dont understand the language ? Rodrunner17 (talk) 06:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC) {{helpme}}[reply]

It's got to be verifiable. That means I could check it, if I really wanted to. If I did want to, I'd just find a Wikipedian who could speak indonesian - either on the English Wikipedia, or on Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.

Failing that, I could ask someone to translate it for me - I've got a friend over in Malaysia that I think can speak Indonesian.

The point is, it would be possible. No problems. With almost 10 million users, it's not too hard to find someone to help out.  Chzz  ►  06:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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