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Before you get too far into WCHA award articles, I'd like to point you towards Western Collegiate Hockey Association men's individual awards. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 01:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Awards and honors

You added a lot of tables to many players' articles with an extra column at the end. I'm not sure if there was a reason for this, but would you mind cleaning that up and removing the extra column please? Gloss • talk 00:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You added an extra column that was empty at the end of each table. Do you have a clue what I'm referring to? Gloss • talk 00:57, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Gloss • talk 01:00, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The extra column at the end is to be used for references, so please use it for that purpose. Also, I have noticed that you are systematically removing the "u" from "honour", even in cases when the subject is Canadian. Honour (with the "u") is the correct Canadian spelling of the word, so please, per WP:RETAIN, do not change spellings to American English when there is no valid reason for such a change. Dolovis (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Dolovis: If a reference is going to be added, then the column is fine. But no point in having an empty column otherwise. Gloss • talk 03:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Gloss is correct, if there is no reference the column shouldn't be there. Technically the awards shouldn't be in a table anyways per Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format#Awards we use a bulleted list for awards. Dolovis however is correct about the u. You should leave Canadian English spelling on non-American player pages. -DJSasso (talk) 13:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I Pens, Thanks again for the hard work on the college hockey articles. I was about to add another NAIA team and paused for a second- thought they don't really belong on that specific list. Most of the old NAIA hockey teams were dual affiliated in NCAA and most of the others weren't dual members eventually went NCAA once the D3 championship was created. If we start adding ones like UM-Dearborn that never went NCAA, it detracts from the list subject of NCAA teams. Perhaps a separate list is needed, but not sure how many other than UM-Dearborn we could add? Currently there's a new group of NAIA varsity teams, mostly playing in the Wolverine-Hoosier Athletic Conference. Unfortunately a lot of the history of NAIA Hockey goes dark besides the teams still playing in the NCAA. If there's not enough for a stand-alone list, the historical NAIA-hockey only teams could be added to a new section of NAIA Ice Hockey Championship which somewhat covers the history of NAIA hockey. Thoughts? --Bhockey10 (talk) 00:24, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Chester F. Cleaves at 1919–20 Bates men's ice hockey season

Hi PensRule11385! Would you be able to tell me your source for the roster at 1919–20 Bates men's ice hockey season#Roster?

I am trying to track down more information about Chester F. Cleaves. It seems that he dropped "Chester" & started to use the name "Freeman Cleaves". His Wikidata record is at wikidata:Q94118723.

What makes me think that they are the same person? These:

  • "A Little Bragging". The Nashua Telegraph. Vol. 73, no. 190. October 13, 1947. p. 6. Retrieved 2023-09-01 – via NewspaperArchive.
  • Chester Freeman Cleaves at Find a Grave

The reason that I ask is that many sources list his birth date as 1904 or October 13, 1904. However, the roster & Find a Grave are consistent in listing his birth date as October 31, 1901.

There may have been various reasons for the appearance of the later birth date. I think that it may have been forgery to qualify for US Army WWII service, since according to Find a Grave, he saw service 1942–1943. Or it might have been someone's typographical error. In any case, I am looking for a reliable source for the birth date, and Find a Grave does not qualify. I am hoping that tracking down the source for the roster that you inserted will help. Peaceray (talk) 21:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The information I have is mostly from the school's yearbook (https://archive.org/details/mirror192000unse/page/134/mode/2up?q=hockey). According to the Bates Student (the school's newspaper), a person with last name of Cleaves played in one game for the hockey team in 1920 (page 30; volume XLVIII. No. 8; March 5, 1920; 5th column; https://archive.org/details/Bates_Student_1920/page/n29/mode/2up). While he was not a starter for the team and thus not included as a letterwinner, Chester Freeman Cleaves is the only person who was attending school at that time with that last name. His name also appears in multiple reports during the 1922 season, when he was still attending Bates, but vanishes from university accounts thereafter. Because he does not have a senior profile in the Bates Mirror I can't be certain of his birth date so I used the only other source I had at my disposal, the one on Find a Grave.
If the date is wrong, you're welcome to change it, however, I think that is unlikely. First, if you look at the picture on Find a Grave, the birth year under Freeman is 1901. Secondly, because he was a college freshman in 1919, he was probably born no later than 1901 as that would make him around 18-years-old at the time. I can't saw with certainty that Cleaves wasn't born in 1904, only that it's very doubtful if you consider the other information. PensRule11385 (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The reason why you may not have found him after the 1922 season is that he may have transferred to the University of New Hampshire, from which he seems to have graduated in 1924, as per "Ask Job on Nerve Alone". Boston Globe. Vol. 106, no. 159. 6 December 1924. p. 1. By then he had dropped Chester & was using Freeman, as per "A Little Bragging". The Telegraph. Vol. 73}, no. 190. 13 October 1947. p. 6.
It is generally a bad idea to rely on Find A Grave for factual information, as per WP:FINDAGRAVE-EL. That said, I have no contemporary sources for the birth date, only authority control sources that come much later. I will look for earlier sources. Peaceray (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just found his draft card on ancestry.com, which lists his birth date as October 13, 1901. So Find A Grave is right on the month & year, but wrong on the day. Peaceray (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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