User talk:OwenBlacker/Archive 15

Wiktionary:Old English translations

Old English died out almost a thousand years ago, and modern "Old English" is an artificial constructed language made to be as close as possible to the real Old English- but not Old English itself. The fact that you've added translations to Wiktionary entruies for things that didn't exist or couldn't have been known about by Old English speakers a millennium ago tells me that you're not being careful enough: the only places you could have gotten those are wikis and other websites that aren't valid sources as far as Wiktionary is concerned.

You should never add translations in languages that you don't speak fluently yourself unless you have good references and know enough about the language to avoid misinterpreting those references. Don't ever just copy what other web sites have. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:14, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chuck Entz: And Old English Wikipedia article tiles are not good enough? — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 00:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely not. Wikis are never acceptable sources, because there's no citable source. Wikipedias are the worst because even with modern languages it's quite common for editors to not know the correct term for something in the language (if there even is one). Since they can't have an article without a title, they make something up. I can't tell you how many times we've deleted entries for words that have never been used anywhere but Wikipedias.
One of my first Wiktionary entries was taken from a Portuguese Wikipedia article and was deleted because it turned out not to be a real Portuguese word. This was for a type of fruit that grows in Portuguese-speaking countries and can be found in Portuguese reference works (under the correct name- not the one I used). If that can happen with one of the world's major languages, it can happen with any language. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:25, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chuck Entz: Fair enough. Thanks for the heads-up. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tropisim discussion?

Hi, I recently read the page on HIV tropism on which it looks like you placed a merge proposal template a few weeks ago, but when I click on the blue "Discussion" link in that article, I am not taken to any actual discussion— just to the talk page of the tropism article. IS there a discussion somewhere? Or was one never started? Am hoping you can help clarify this. Thanks! A loose noose (talk) 01:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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@Yoninah: Thanks; I've not been able to look during the week, but I should be able to do so over this weekend. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Jussie Smollett

Re: your edit at this article, a crime is determined to be a hate crime, with enhanced legal consequences, during criminal investigation. Your removal of the word "suspected", as used by the source cited at that time, pre-supposes that the investigation will confirm this element. You may not do so. It is a hateful crime, no doubt, but it may not be described as a confirmed hate crime until reliable sources report that authorities have done so. Do you understand? General Ization Talk 20:13, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please note that TMZ is not considered a reliable source for any content in Wikipedia. See WP:RSN if you have questions. General Ization Talk 20:15, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@General Ization: You might like to assume good faith and be somewhat less patronising in your Talk: messages. At the point when I tidied up that paragraph, TMZ was the main source with any detail — shortly thereafter more-widely reported — and was already reporting it without the caveat of "suspected" (which itself is non-neutral). As I only had a moment, I made a minimal edit to make the paragraph better than it was previously, in the knowledge that someone else would come tidy it up better when they had a chance. (And it was not long before CPD described it as a hate crime. Please take your high-horse elsewhere. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies)
TMZ is an unreliable source and may not be used as source here, even if there is no other source (and in fact there was, the Variety report I have now restored). And I never supposed bad faith, nor indicated that I did, but your edit was misguided for the reasons I explained. Candidly, I was surprised that you did so, given the number and length of your editing history. Also, I have yet to see the "Chicago Police Department describe it as a hate crime." It has been described as a possible and suspected hate crime. General Ization Talk
As for "take your high-horse elsewhere", see civility. My messages here to you are civil, whether or not you like them; that is not. General Ization Talk 20:53, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're right; I had misread a tweet previously and hadn't spotted that CPD's statement mentioned suspected; apologies. Still, your message was very confrontational; you might want to consider tone in future messages. I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree on our civility towards eachother. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I am certain that this edit was well-intentioned, but I hope you won't embark on a campaign to "fix" Wikipedia when the scientific consensus is still split on whether to switch from one acronym to the other. "PCP" is not wrong - to the contrary, it's still in use by major guidelines committees and others - because it has a long history of use and is easily mapped to "pneumocystis pneumonia". As a specialist in this area, I can assure you that it's an unsettled issue and WP should reflect reliable sources, not current shifts. Cheers! — soupvector (talk) 23:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Soupvector: I think you missed the point of the edit. The article referred to Pneumocystis jirovecii at the start of the AIDS Crisis, so I changed it to refer to PCP and merely make a mention of the newer name, so as not to confuse readers unfamiliar with the Plague Years. You're directing your concern to the wrong user 😊 — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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