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Hi, I saw that you are forcing ISO-9 system for transliteration of Bulgarian orthography into English, instead of the official "Streamlined System". In wikipedia it's preferred using the offical method, as it's described at: Naming conventions (Cyrillic) for Bulgarian (when no commonly accepted form exists in English). For example the transliteration of Dalgopol, may be "Dulgopol" (since it's widely used), but not "Dǎlgopol", because it's neother widely used and nether used in practice i.e. you can see "Dalgopol" or "Dulgopol" in Bulgarian road signs, but never "Dǎlgopol". Please, stick to the Wikipedia preferred method when referring to Bulgarian orthography.--StanProg (talk) 16:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and thanks for your feedback, I am of course promoting the scientifical latinisation of slavic language and it is not offense, as you know it there is already lack of using (see Lozenec example instead of Lozenets at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syst%C3%A8me_bulgare_officiel_de_translitt%C3%A9ration_des_caract%C3%A8res_cyrilliques#mediaviewer/Fichier:Signposts_in_Sofia.JPG) the official by the Bulgarian speakers. So it is obviously essential to see "Sofiq, Sofia, Sofya" "Turgovishte, Targovishte" etc. The presentation of the settlements of Bulgaria is since long a great problem, for example: let's take Несебър? Scientifically it is latinised as Nesebǎr, in the latin world it is done with A-breve, as already used in Romanian language: Nesebăr. Additionally, people from Turkey using their own "way" to latinise the Bulgarian towns (Nesebır), villages etc so it is becoming more and more complex. So the letter "ъ" is scientifically latinised only with A-caron, otherwise people of the world would have to learn 3 or 4 different name of the place. What I promote is already used in other wikipedias. For more info: please visit http://balkanologie.revues.org/2082 and Sofia's districts written with scientifical latinisation https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia Blagodarja i hubav den! Anton.aldemir (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The "Rozenec" road sign is not an offcial sign, but a private one, create by the "bar & grill" company. The common "scientific latinisation of slavic language" is not important at all, since it differs the official Bulgarian language standard. The Romanian language transliteration or how the Turks latinze the Bulgarian orthography is not important at all as well. Transliteration from Bulgarian to French may differ the one from Bulgarian to English and that's normal - even if both are using Latin alphabets, just like we're using Cyrillic, but not using the same standard for transliteration like in other languages in Cyrillic. This is specific for "Language to Language". The question is to not force standard, that is no longer in use officially and to use the the official standard, if there's no "widely used" other transliteration, like for example Bulgaria-Bulgariya. In all other cases, using the official transliteration is recommended. --StanProg (talk) 09:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you had shown interest in the Gadulka article (or at least the language part of the article. There is an anonymous user who desperately wants to add two names to the article, Mincho Minchev and Mincho Nedyalkov (repeated attempts that don't make sense). Is there any chance you could find out more about them? Do you know Bulgarian? I have been unable to find articles online using Latin characters, and have no idea what the names are in Bulgarian script. If I had those, I could start with Google Translate to search for more info.Jacqke (talk) 08:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, that is pertinent now. Minčos are obviously good gǎdulka players; but I could not find any article about them only their videos uploaded at youtube. Know that in case you find I am ready to latinise the article by myself after the 6th of august. Thanks and regards Anton.aldemir (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, did you actually read WP:BULGARIANNAMES? "The Official Bulgarian method is preferred". The method you are applying is not the official one, for good or bad. The example with Boris Christoff actually remarks that the name is properly romanized as Hristov.

I am aware that what you're using is the scientific method, but this is not the common romanization of Bulgarian on Wikipedia. And as you can see, all place names use the official method.

Is a book about religion from 1987 seriously your reference that Wikipedia should use the romanization system you like rather than the one the community has agreed about? This cannot be serious. — Toдor Boжinov — 21:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for your advise (ISO 9). Pozdravi K. Ali 23:22, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
• I need your help about the word "Hane" from the text: Hane da dojde adin den da možame pres straha i pres srama da dumime kakna so dumili našite djadove i da pisavame na našokse ezika. S. Karahodža, Xanthi

1. The translation of Hane in Bulgarian is хайде(come on) or 2. This is the name Nane incorrectly recorded as Hane. K. Ali

Dobar den, Alijo! Here is the source of the text As I saw there it was written Hane, I replied it in latin version. It seems that it was written with missing voice, because the reporatage was done by a Bulgarian and texted by a Bulgarian. What I think personally is: Hane is something like Hani (means Where? in turkish). In turkish as well, it is used Hani O günler (Where are those days?). "Hajde da dojde adin den" is less logical from my viewpoint because the voice "y" could not be so easily misunderstood by the reporter, fact that it is very well known in Bulgarian as хайде. Nane is surely a plant which has a strong smell (Menthe) Blagodarja i pozdravi Anton.aldemir (talk) 17:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, are you familiar with WP:BULGARIANNAMES? You cannot be a fan of one romanization system and be pushing it on Wikipedia because this would create inconsistency and potential confusion. I also find the "scientific" romanization method more accurate and do like it, but the reality is, it's not official and it's very rarely used for Bulgarian nowadays. Best wishes, — Toдor Boжinov — 13:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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:)) Not like the Turkish language Wikipedia. Is it? --Esc2003 (talk) 19:05, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, not funny. The information is universal. Some people try to make it dirty because of weirdy feelings, but we are majority. Which city are you from? Manaviko (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

While I do not condone their responses to you (which essentially blow everything out of proportion) they do have a right to remove whatever messages they want from their talk page, provided that they're not trying to remove stuff pertaining to an active block. Consider this a three-revert rule warning. (For the record, edits in one's own userspace are 3RR-exempt.) —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 21:23, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I met one on one with him. Website distorted his words. Unnecessary conversation. --taysin (talk) 20:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello dear Taysin, about this edit Please read Use English & No personal attacks: It is preferable to use English on all talk pages of English Wikipedia so comments may be comprehensible to the community. A personal attack is saying something negative about another person If using another language is unavoidable, try to provide a translation of the comments. If you cannot translate the comments, third parties or Wikipedia:Embassy can help. Manaviko (talk) 13:48, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OWNTALK: Users have any right to remove entries from their own talk page. I suggest you remove your "Warnings" immediately and apologize.

Also: Using English Wikipedia to discuss edits in Turkish Wikipedia while you are blocked in Turrkish Wikipedia is disruptive, to say the least. --T*U (talk) 20:36, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I came across this edit, which I have reverted. I first assumed that you were not aquainted with Wikipedia guidelines for transcription of Bulgarian Cyrillic (WP:BULGARIANNAMES): The Official Bulgarian method is preferred. However, when I started to write this message, I saw that you already have been noticed about this, last by @TodorBozhinov: in October 2015. Taking a closer look at your edit history, I find that you have continued to push your personal point of view by changing to the Scientific ISO transcription in a large number of articles, even if you know that it is against Wikipedia guidelines. Such disruptive edits will eventually be reverted, but it would be a great help if you started to self revert. If, on the other hand, you continue to edit against Wikipedia policy, you may be subject to discretionary sanctions. --T*U (talk) 09:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)#Usage First point: If a name or word has a conventional English spelling, that is used. That is valid for many (most) personal names. So please stop the disruptive mass edits now. --T*U (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I read your comment about Albanians settled in Cyprus, and I must say that I was very intrigued as the possible Albanian origin of some Cypriots in the region of Tillyria/Dillirga had been a topic that I personally heard about in Cyprus (don't remember where from though). The Ottoman policy of settlement in Cyprus involved settling ethnic Turks, mostly from Central Anatolia and Taurus Mountains, and there is no historical evidence in terms of archive material of Albanians being settled in Cyprus by the Ottomans. You seem to have got the quotation from this post, which is not exactly very reliable for historical information. Having looked a bit more into this, however, there are sources to support Albanian settlement in Cyprus under the Venetians. From George Hill's A History of Cyprus, vol. 1 (Cambridge University Press, 1949), pp. 260-261: "The institution of a military garrison, or at least a coast-guard, for the island, to protect it from invaders, was traced by Cypriote tradition to the time of Constantine,3 who at the request of the inhabitants was said to have sent a captain to govern them and soldiers to protect them from the corsairs. But there can be little doubt that the establishment of this coast-guard on an effective scale dates from a later time than Constantine, and was necessitated by the menace of Islam. These stratiotai were paid out of a tax called the stratia, levied on the number of hearths. In the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries estradiote was the general name for such mercenaries, or Arnauts, for the most part of Albanian origin; and certainly there was a coast-guard of Albanians in Cyprus under Venetian rule;1 but the Albanian origin of the earliest stratiotai is out of the question." The footnote in p. 261 states "The Albanians formed a race apart, until they disappeared in the sixteenth century (Sathas in Arch, de I'Orient latin, n, 1884, Doc. p. 411)." Thus, Christian Albanians were settled as mercenaries in Cyprus under Venetian rule. Although this should not be confused with non-Albanian mercenaries from Tilos, who settled in the Tillyria region under the Byzantines, this settlement seems to have been concentrated in Tillyria as well: although some parts of it are stretched a bit too far, this article might be useful. These Albanians seem to have converted to Islam during the Ottoman rule [1]. Albanian mercenaries seem to have been recorded in Limassol as well [2]. This is a fascinating detail in history with very scarce sources about it, I suspect that an examination of Greek-language sources might help. This could perhaps be integrated in an article, though I don't know which one. --GGT (talk) 22:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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