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How do I personolize my wikipedia user name signature so that is has different colors, and a direct link to my talk page? Juliancolton 17:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how people do colors and whatnot, personally, I think it's a waste of time. You can look at other people's sigs in edit mode and see what the formatting looks like and then test your own using the preview function. Once you know what you want, just copy it to the signature box in Special:Preferences and click "raw signature". -- John Reaves 17:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC

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How do I put a number on a list of referances and then put that numbeer on a piece of information. I don't know how to explain it better so here is an example, a piece of information from the Hurricane Felix article:

Felix was upgraded to major hurricane status at around 1800 UTC on September 2 while located about 490 miles (790 km) southeast of Kingston, Jamaica.[15]

how do I asighn a number at the end of a sentance to a certain referances? Juliancolton 21:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Put the website address (or cite template, like {{cite news}}) inside <ref> tags, like this: <ref>http://www.example.com</ref> where you want the reference you want to appear. The MediaWiki system will automatically assign a number and put the reference in the References section. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 21:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:REF, and WP:CITE. The general way is to use <ref> tags. It works as following: ::This is some text with a reference <ref>the reference you want to use. You probably want to use a {{citeweb}} or general {{cite}} template</ref> :Then at the end of the article, you have a references section, with a <references /> tag. This tag will list the references you have put in the article. Everything between the <ref> and <ref/> tags will be listed here. Martijn Hoekstra 21:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Re Garrett metal detctors and Garrett (Metal Detectors)

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Garrett. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks.

Please stop. If you continue to blank or remove content from Wikipedia, as you did to Bounty Hunter, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Camp Lake Greeley, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Camp Lake Greeley. You may remove the {{dated prod}} template, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. ... discospinster _talk 23:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Please give me more information on how I could write a better article focusing on 'Camp Lake Greeley".Juliancolton 21:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. A page you created, Camp Lake greeley, has been deleted in accordance with our deletion policy.

Wikipedia has certain standards for inclusion that all articles must meet. Certain types of article must establish the notability of their subject by asserting its importance or significance. Additionally, since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, content inappropriate for an encyclopedia, or content that would be more suited to somewhere else (such as a directory or social networking website) is not acceptable. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for the relevant policy.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable notability guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content; it will be deleted again and may be protected from re-creation. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article. If you have any questions, please contact an administrator for assistance. Thank you – Gurch 20:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Camp lake greeley. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

1. Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
2. Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. — BrotherFlounder (aka DiegoTehMexican) 21:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on List of Vegetable Varieties, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet very basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Slgrandson (page - messages - contribs) 16:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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I've nominated Tax Day 2007 Nor'easter, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Tax Day 2007 Nor'easter satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tax Day 2007 Nor'easter and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Tax Day 2007 Nor'easter during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Wl219 20:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. I noticed you created an article about the Spring 2007 Nor'easter. Since it appeared to be about the same topic as April 2007 Nor'easter, I created a redirect to take readers from your title to the established article. If you have information to contribute to the existing article, please feel free to do so. NickelShoe (Talk) 17:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Meteorological Effects of Hurricane Felix (2007), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Martijn Hoekstra 15:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find some if this usefull: Welcome!

Hello, Juliancolton, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Martijn Hoekstra 21:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

any thoughts on my article List of New York hurricanes?Juliancolton 21:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

A Proposed Deletion template has been added to the article Airblown inflatable, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. Coredesat 03:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

A Proposed Deletion template has been added to the article 2007 New York Mets collapse, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. Coredesat 03:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

There is no need to create an article for the 2009 season yet - it is currently adequately covered at Post-2008 Atlantic hurricane seasons. Please do not restore the redirect again. Also, please conform to the naming conventions when naming articles. --Coredesat 00:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I try to get these weather related articles as far in advance as i can. I don't understand why it can not be there as an article. HOW DOES IT AFFECT YOU? Juliancolton 13:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The post-2008 article is sufficient since all we know are the storm names. Also, please remain civil. --Coredesat 15:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

As said by the article Wikipedia is not a crystal ball states:

"Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. "

I am sure that the 2009 Atlantic Hurricane Season will take place, and that is what is required to keep this article. Juliancolton 16:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

But still, there is no information whatsoever about it other than the list of names. This is already in Post-2008 Atlantic hurricane seasons. Also, by "misnamed", "hurricane seasons" should be lowercase. --Coredesat 00:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

All you have to do is put your name at the end of the members list located here. I'm glad you're joining! Hurricanehink (talk) 14:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You need to cite your sources when you write articles. All of the articles you have created from scratch are completely unsourced, and could be candidates for deletion. All articles must have cited reliable secondary sources. --Coredesat 04:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

There really isn't any, to be honest, there are several impact articles that adequately cover all this information and more. --Coredesat 18:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't say I'm super good at featured stuff - I just withdrew a Featured List nomination because other people made me realize how it was not ready. I guess I can give you some pointers. The golden rule of article writing is that you are writing for an encyclopedia, which in itself is two keywords, writing and encyclopedia. First, I would recommend that if you use Firefox, to download the newest version that has a spell checker, or another internet browser that uses a spell checker. Spelling correctly is an important part of writing, almost as important as grammar. Developing good grammar skills is something that takes time. Try using all of the techniques you learned in grade school grammar. There is one method I use that I believe makes the prose into more professional, and that is combining sentences and clauses. Short sentences are annoying. They don't tell much. Also, they could easily be combined. Long sentences, however, merge similar thoughts, and in effect tells more with fewer sentences.

The second key aspect of article writing is the subject matter. I have been tracking hurricanes for twelve years of my life, and I've been writing Wikipedia articles for more than two of those. The more you know about the article, there is a better chance you can organize the information better and know what else to add to the article. For hurricane articles, there is a generic format for an article, but every storm is different in areas affected and its severity. Therefore, every article should be different, and the way to treat each article as such is to maintain a rough ratio of text to impact; generally speaking, a hurricane causing $1 billion in damage in one country should have much more information that an area that received $4 million in damage.

I see that one of your tasks on your to do list is to improve List of New York hurricanes. To get that to featured list, the best place to begin would be to just dive right in. If you have any more questions, feel free to leave a post on my talk page. --Hurricanehink (talk) 01:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please review policies, guidelines, and guide pages before making comments like this. --Coredesat 01:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Click the link in the sentence above - I was referring to your "a GA for a storm that did no damage" remark. --Coredesat 03:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It would be a lot easier if you asked this on either the #wiki-hurricanes IRC channel, so people can look it up. Or as I said, Be Bold and look. Don't just ask in the talk pages.^Mitch32^contribs 16:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't ask in the talk pages. Personally, its annoying. You should join the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel for the project, under #wiki-hurricanes. www.ircatwork.com has a way in. People there can help you out.^Mitch32^contribs 16:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

You're not getting the hint. Don't post things like what you did in Talk: Subtropical Storm One (1992). Its also annoying.^Mitch32^contribs 20:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Its better to save it for the IRC channel i suggested, and that the GA review was months ago.^Mitch32^contribs 20:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Please stop changing the date of your vote and nomination for the article Severe weather of the Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive. It is not fair to the other articles and could indicate to others that you do not play by the rules. Zginder (talk) 22:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I have the sandboxes written for three of them (haven't done Karen yet as I am awaiting the TCR), although you can certainly build on them. Ingrid, Jerry, Karen (when ready), Melissa. CrazyC83 (talk) 16:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey. Your enthusiasm is great - we could all use some more enthusiasm. However, I need to be honest. A few users have gotten annoyed at your edits, and its seems you could use some guidance. The first step is to calm down :) Every comment on a talk page does not need a reply, such as this or this. Additionally, not every storm needs an article, and some storms in general should not get an article, this year's TD 15 being an example. A tropical depression lasting a few hours in the middle of nowhere does not need an article, particularly since there's not much to write about. Next, I strongly recommend you learn to write better. Grammatically incorrect edits, such as this, those that go against Wiki policy, such as this one, are detrimental to the project. Please take your time and read up on policy, and before creating new articles, perhaps you should read up on some hurricane featured or good articles. Cheers --Hurricanehink (talk) 02:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Just because an article may appear to be good in your opinion does not mean we should nominate every single one for FAC. Articles may have problems you aren't seeing, plus we have been warned in the past not to flood FAC with articles from the project. Flooding FAC is resulting in complacency and a noticeable loss in quality of WPTC articles, not to mention WP:JUSTAVOTE supports "just because". --Coredesat 22:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

The wikipedia ad page said you can take requests for new ads. Can you make one for the Wikiproject tropical cyclone? Juliancolton (talk) 02:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I can. However, to make the ads I use Photoshop and (the discontinued) ImageReady programs that I have access to at school. Therefore, I will have to wait till Monday before I can begin making the ad. Until then, do you have any ideas what you want the ad to have? (Btw, I know, GIMP is free and you can make ads with it, but I don't know my way around gimp.) – Andrew Hampe ^Talk 06:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thats great, thanks! I am thinking about what I want in it, and I will let you know later this weekend, as I am pretty busy right now.

Is it possible to make it animated like some of the other wikipedia ads that I have seen? Juliancolton (talk) 12:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, i understand if you are really busy, but are you going to get to that Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical Cyclones ad soon? Thanks! Juliancolton (talk) 01:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, i totally forgot about it. I'll try to get it done/started tomorrow. Sorry about that. Also, of course it can be animated! – Andrew Hampe ^Talk 03:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I used to live in New York. I live in New Jersey now. I just like NY better :).^Mitch32^contribs 20:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Nah, I mostly like to stay with hurricane articles. I have considered doing some other articles on flooding, or something, but hurricane articles are much simpler, particularly since they are named and officially tracked. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Please see this discussion for the answer to your question, it's kind of silly and erroneous but I've made several other useful repairs as well. Slysplace | ^talk 16:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Dang, dude! I did that like 15 seconds ago! Lol, Yes, I'm leaving. Been here since Dec 2005, but it's time to move on. Cyclone1(21:25-13-12-2007) —Preceding comment was added at 21:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. I just won't be editing anymore. Cyclone1(21:27-13-12-2007) —Preceding comment was added at 21:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Bye. I'll be at Storm2k.org from now on probably, but I will miss this place sometimes. Cyclone1(21:33-13-12-2007) —Preceding comment was added at 21:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to work on that series, but aren't you working on New England hurricanes (and Hurricane Grace, and List of Cat. 4 hurricanes, and Hurricane Charley)? Thanks for the offer, though. --Hurricanehink (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you really think List of Cat. 4 hurricanes is ready, you should nominate it for Featured list status, not Featured article status. --Hurricanehink (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I suppose so. Please read WP:FLC and the nomination procedure, as you nominated the article incorrectly. --Hurricanehink (talk) 01:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I got the noticeboard. --Hurricanehink (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll comment on it. --Hurricanehink (talk) 02:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I really just wished that you spent more time copyediting and reading over your articles on your own, rather than bugging others for feedback when it is clearly not ready. I don't know if anyone wants you to leave; I just really wished you would take some more care in your articles. Your enthusiasm is great – I've said that before. Please consider taking some more time to learn how to write better. --Hurricanehink (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article development - this page should help. --Hurricanehink (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hiya mate. Just a quick thing. I was wondering if youd wanna come on the #wiki-hurricanes IRC channel. If you have anything you need to ask you can do it here. If possible use something like chatzilla but if not use this IRC page - put your wikiname as your name, irc.freenode.net as the server, and #wiki-hurricanes as the server. hope this helps Seddon69 (talk) 02:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you get chatzilla if possible. You need to get firefox as well. Seddon69 (talk) 13:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[1] is an internet browser & [2] is an IRC channel add on Seddon69 (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

no im on there right now. if you install thelinks i sent, then just click on the irc link Seddon69 (talk) 13:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey JC, I dug up User:Hurricanehink's tips he gave me over a year ago. I think these may come good for you. Dear Tropical cyclone editor,

As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.

1. Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
2. Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
3. Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexible, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
4. Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
5. Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
6. Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
7. Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
8. Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.

Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask. I hope you can use these well. I've certainly tried. Have a good day.^Mitch32^contribs 21:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding how long the lede should be, keep in mind that the guidelines were written a year ago. Most articles, particularly those impacting land, should have two paragraphs at least. However, the WPTC has added more fish storms in the last year, for which one paragraph in the lede would suffice. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Articles

The three bad articles have been:

1. Hurricane Marco (1996) - Most of the info is cruddy. The storm history is a copy and paste from the TCR. Although its allowed, a hand-written one would be better. Otherwise, I copied and pasted the info from my sandbox everywhere else.
2. Hurricane Isaac (2000) - Same as Marco, but instead I didn't bother copying from my other sandbox again.
3. Tropical Storm Cristobal (2002) - Very cruddy article on a non-notable storm. That's a case of a bad article to work on.

Also, Non-tropical Effects of Hurricane Katrina and Meteorological history of Hurricane Felix are bad cases of articles. Personally, I'd like to see you work on your grammar (don't worry, I'm bad with that too). Also, hard work could go into working on already created articles. Hurricane Luis, Hurricane Carmen, Hurricane Hugo, Hurricane Dora, Hurricane Cleo are examples of articles that need work. Its good that you have enthusiasm, but all these bad articles are becoming a burden for the project. I'd like to see your enthusiasm go into articles like the ones mentioned above.^Mitch32^contribs 21:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Nah, just need to look at what you're doing. Please, join the IRC channel mentioned by Seddon69 above. It'll help.^Mitch32^contribs 22:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Use www.ircatwork.com and follow the following directions:

1. Put Juliancolton as your username.

2. The second box has to be irc.freenode.net

3. The third box has to be #wiki-hurricanes

4. Hit Login.

It should work. If not, check your popup settings.^Mitch32^contribs 22:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, you're in the channel, both hink and I see you there. The 2nd and 3rd steps have to be exact.^Mitch32^contribs 22:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You're screen should show:

Nickname Juliancolton

Server irc.freenode.net

Channel #wiki-hurricanes

Then you hit login. ^Mitch32^contribs 22:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Try /reconnect when it says no channel. If that doesn't work, try /join Wiki-hurricanes . --Hurricanehink (talk) 22:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, you are showing up on the page. I'm on there now and I see your name pop up. --Hurricanehink (talk) 22:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

It says Juliancolton (n=400c7411@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-ed04a9aa80fb9e87) has joined #wiki-hurricanes. I'm not sure what else to say. --Hurricanehink (talk) 22:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Just to be sure of something - when you get onto the IRC, look at the top. Do you see tabs? If you do, go into the one marked #wiki-hurricanes. --Hurricanehink (talk) 22:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Mate i suggest you download firefox and chatzilla coz i get a feeling that site is down atm. It works just its not connecting. Seddon69 (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Type in your message in the bar below. ^Mitch32^contribs 20:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Type in /reconnect in the bar. Then type.^Mitch32^contribs 20:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I have just been thinking, what firewall do you use? Seddon69 (talk) 20:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

did you look at the link i sent on the IRC? Seddon69 (talk) 22:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

This could be a good idea indeed, although what would make it more successful is probably to have a bigger share of winter storm articles on non-North America storms such as in Europe, parts of North Asia (like in China and Korea) and occasionnally in the Middle East and southern Hemisphere, although I know this might be tough to find significant info on those storms away from North America. Perhaps, it can be discussed with the other members at WikiProject Meteorology.--JForget 23:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

That looks okay, maybe a section on criterias needed for an article could be added as well - criterias that can be discussed in the future if the WikiProject is born. I've also send messages about the proposal of the new WikiProject (I've seen that you've already posted a message at the WP:METEO talk page) to non-retired members of the WikiProject including bob rulz, CrazyC83, Titoxd, Hurricanehink, Ringtailedfox, Gopher backer, etc. --JForget 01:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I will think about those but I will wait until some discussion is occuring at the WikiProject first. However, generally as initial guidelines (althoug I will not post them now) would include widespread significant to severe effects, unusual major storm and or at unusual location (i.e Middle East, Great Britain/northern France (Paris), Korea, Argentina, Australia, California/Arizona or northern Florida/Georgia/Alabama, etc.), at least numerous fatalities by the storm (including or not its aftermath) and historic/major power outages. One of those criteria should be met. For example, the last article meets at least 3 of those criteria, while the earlier December storm includes the first criteria, perhaps the third.--JForget 02:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Well we could add a template showing the number of articles per quality-level and importance-level like the one at the WP:METEO and other wikiprojects, that would be a first thing as well as a section for potential deletion nominations (PROD's) as well as AFD discussions. Tommorrow, (as it is quite late) I could create a WikiProject Winter Storms template (those with the this article is within the scope of the WikiProject Winter storms. I don't know if anyone wants to operate a bot within the project, although not sure if it will be necessary. JForget 03:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I've tried the code of a similar WikiProject tag but doesn't seem to work, I'm not particularly good at building templates, when it is it's usually cheap - although maybe I could try some other stuff in the sandbox. I've completed forgot that but I've never realised I have added this in the early december storm talk page.--JForget 00:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually it's just the quality assessment line that needs to be fixed.--JForget 00:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Rechecking, you've simply forgot a - on the line (the one whichs change lines) prior to the quality scale one.JForget 00:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

We discussed the link in the table in the past, and consensus was that it wasn't OR. The NOAA pages don't give ACE in a per-storm listing, only in a per-season one. --Coredesat 23:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

We need to get a preliminary head-count for the AMNH tour happening before the meet-up. If you think you would like to go, please sign up at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC#AMHN tour sign-up. Thanks! ScienceApologist (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Juliancolton. And review the page history for WP:RFA. Your RFA was transcluded today to the main RFA page. I removed it because it seemed like a work in progress, and because you should be the person to post it, not a third party. Please let me know if I did the wrong thing. Cheers, Darkspots (talk) 20:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I assume this was you. If you only wanted to see what it would look like, you should not have put it on main space. Also, the reason I haven't been nominated for adminship in the last two years is because I have no desire to become one, which is the same reason I opposed my nomination two years ago. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I can't say my position either way, but good luck with the coaching. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you still looking for a coach?

The Transhumanist 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am. Juliancolton (talk) 15:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I would be happy to coach you.

Keep in mind that I'm not an admin - I've been through 3 RfA's (so far), and therefore I understand the process well, though I have not yet overcome the stigma of conflicts I was engaged in early in my participation here (which occurred over a year ago, also, if you want to see what not to do in an RfA, see my first two). But I am an admin coach, and have co-coached 5 users who have become admins, 4 of whom I co-nominated for adminship in their successful RfAs. I have experience over a wide range of activities, and I'd say my general approach is progressive and direct.

If you'd like me to coach you, I do have several conditions, and they are that you...

1. fill in all of your edit summaries (if you find yourself forgetting, there's a setting in "my preferences" that will remind you)
2. watch your coaching page closely, and reply to every post there in a timely fashion
3. keep the "VC lessons" template somewhere you can access it easily (usually on your user or talk page). I'll place it initially, and then you can move it if you want.
4. complete all the assignments you are given to the best of your ability. If you have trouble with an assignment, by all means, let me know, so we can discuss possible solutions and alternatives.
5. take the advice provided by my fellow coaches and your fellow students to heart (this should be a group effort), and I generally invite others I work with to join in on the fun
6. don't go for your RfA or accept an RfA nomination except from me - I will coordinate your nomination you when I believe you are ready
7. (optional, though highly recommended) write a lesson for the Virtual classroom. You'll have plenty of time to mull this over, so don't worry about it.
8. relax, be yourself, and have fun

Please let me know if you agree, and we can get started.

I look forward to your reply.

The Transhumanist 16:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. I don't know if I can spend as much time as you would like working on it, because I am pretty busy with Tropical cyclones. If that is ok, than sure! Juliancolton (talk) 16:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

No worries, I'm flexible, and there's no hurry. There are plenty of toys to play with, without the need to become an admin. And we can make the articles you edit the primary focus of your coaching, to begin with. See the template I've posted above, and the link on there to your coaching page. The Transhumanist 17:38, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

That's great, thanks! But, I do know some users that will strongly oppose my RFA when I get to it. Is this a problem? Juliancolton (talk) 18:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

It can be. It sure was in my case. The choices are to either ride it out and overcome it over time, or exercise your right to vanish (and start over). I have a strong presence in a couple very narrow niches (with one major contributor, me), so starting over with a clean slate wouldn't have done me any good, because I'd stick out like a sore thumb regardless. Plus I'm rather attached to my current username, and there are several departments I'm responsible for. If you stay with your current identity, you may overcome objections by addressing them and by approaching your objectors. If there's bad blood between you and anyone on Wikipedia, you shouldn't let that simmer. Instead you should try your best to make amends, which is the right thing to do in most cases anyhow. Apologizing is a good start, and is the civil thing to do. Then include them in the process of your preparation for adminship, and ask them what you need to improve before you will be qualified for the mop. And then, the hardest part, take their feedback to heart and work on the problems they point out. Yes, you will have to swallow your pride, and yes you may have to deal with rejection, but it's the right thing to do. If their advice seems unreasonable, you'll need to think it through carefully and perhaps ask them for further clarification and/or you may need to get feedback from others.

I hate this part of coaching. Because after passing on wisdom like that, I feel compelled to follow my own advice. If I didn't, I'd be nothing but a hypocrite. The Transhumanist 18:48, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! When do I begin training? Juliancolton (talk) 19:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

It's already begun. See your coaching page. The Transhumanist 19:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

See your coaching page. There's a question waiting for you there. The Transhumanist 10:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems like you've forgotten the terms of our agreement. Please reread them. The Transhumanist 08:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC@work like you are.^Mitch32^contribs 19:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Go for it. We can have you in the channel.^Mitch32^contribs 19:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Normally I start with the storm history, which I my favorite aspect of the storm. Specifically, I start with the origins of the storm, which is my favorite part of the storm history. Before doing that, I do some research. If it is in the Atlantic, I start with the TCR, but if it is in recent years I also use archived tropical weather outlooks and tropical weather discussions. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Read it and make sure it makes sense ;) A good storm history is also a well-written storm history – the two go hand in hand. Make sure the Wikilinks go to where you want them to go, also. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:01, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The dab should only be linked if there are several other storms of the same name, although, to be honest, I'm not sure when a dab should be linked. There's been some debate, but generally if there are two storms of the same name of the same type (two storms named Hurricane Ana, for example), a dab link wouldn't hurt. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the NY hurricanes page, it's a little better, format wise, but be sure to focus on the actual impact in NY, not its overall impact. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I already did that - [3]. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but Georges is a storm better left to the professionals. There's so much impact, I personally find it maybe better if someone else did it. I've done work on it before. This was made after a discussion between Hink and I.^Mitch32^contribs 00:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, you should start working on improving your writing for one thing. Also start with smaller, skipped over articles. Don't do any huge work that you may screw up.^Mitch32^contribs 00:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Fay (2002) has been suggested.^Mitch32^contribs 01:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Julian - please, please stick to one thing before it is finished! Make sure it is perfect. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

You should follow the format of the other list of XX hurricanes articles. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I usually do which date the storm first affecting the state. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

IDK, it depends on the state. New Jersey, Delaware, and South America took maybe a night or two. Florida took a year's worth of on and off work. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Please do not review articles of mine and pass them as good with comments like "it's Hink's writing". While it may be in good humor, the GA process has been revamped lately. Given that you did not pass the GA correctly, I reverted you "passing" Daniel 06 (since all you did was remove it from the nominations), and I am relisting it; would you mind not reviewing my articles in the future? --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, that sounds a bit skeptical, given you've told me numerous times your computer crashed. So, thanks, but I'd rather another, more experienced user review my articles. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

We all screw up, don't worry about it. Some of us just screw up less ;) Just stick to the lower articles, finish them, and remember to work slowly. After all, Wikipedia is never going to be finished! There will always be ongoing weather events, political thingies, etc. – at least until the sun explodes. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hah, but someone would still need to make the article on the hypercane :) I recommend using the website [4], which automatically converts units. Here are the guidelines for units. If the primary unit (such as mph or inch) is rounded to a whole number (like 40), then the converted unit also has to be rounded (40 mph should be 65 km/h). Otherwise, the converted unit should be the same number of significant digits as the primary unit; the number 2 has 1 significant figure, as does 10, 100, and 1000 (zeroes do not count unless there are to the right of the decimal). If the value is 9.13 inches, the converted value should be 232 mm). For storms impacting the United States, you should always do the original unit (metric unit). So, 2.3 inches (58 mm), or 44 mph (71 km/h). Hope that helps. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey thanks for that comment...I have Karen up right now, I am awaiting a review (I rewrote it as recommended within project standards). CrazyC83 (talk) 00:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I saw that you reverted an edit by 71.178.160.96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) to Hurricane Katrina.

While I know it's tempting to revert on sight any anonymous edit that removes content from an article, there's a couple of checks that you should be doing first. If you suspect vandalism by an IP, it's a good idea to pull up the IP's contributions list. In the worst-case scenario, it will give you a list of other articles that should be checked for damage; in the best case, it will give an explanation for his edits.

In this particular case, 71.178 removed an image ([5]) from the article. Ah-hah, one says, vandalism! Not so—his immediately-previous edit was to the talk page of the article ([6]) where he explained that the picture had been subtly altered to display incorrect information.

I have since deleted the image and warned the image uploader that he's on very thin ice. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading Image:Winter Storm December 2007.jpg. A machine-controlled robot account noticed that you also uploaded the same image under the name Image:Winter Storm December 2007 NY.jpg. The copy called Image:Winter Storm December 2007 NY.jpg has been marked for speedy deletion since it is redundant. If this sounds okay to you, there is no need for you to take any action.

This is an automated message- you have not upset or annoyed anyone, and you do not need to respond. In the future, you may save yourself some confusion if you supply a meaningful file name and refer to 'my contributions' to remind yourself exactly which name you chose (file names are case sensitive, including the extension) so that you won't lose track of your uploads. For tips on good file naming, see Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions about this notice, or feel that the deletion is inappropriate, please contact User:Staecker, who operates the robot account. Staeckerbot (talk) 18:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, article authors are allowed to (and are even expected to) vote on the deletion of the articles they have written.

The Transhumanist 20:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I made comments on the deletion page and talk page, which are slightly different. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The Transhumanist 21:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Assignments galore. See your coaching page. The Transhumanist 04:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I've started the discussion at Portal talk:Weather, but I don't have any objection for a portal on non-tropical systems, so I presume winter storms, tornado outbreaks, wind storms, floods, hail storms, etc.--JForget 01:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Hum not a whole lot of feedback right now, maybe waiting for a couple of months or be bold and launch it if there is a need for it now.--JForget 00:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I have noticed that you have at least two future articles in your userspace, User:Juliancolton/List of New York hurricanes and User:Juliancolton/Darby (1992). I have a few suggestions/input to offer:

If you look at User:Mitchazenia's Contributions, you should notice that there are 1000 or so edits in userspace (unless Mitchazenia has deleted them since adminship). One of the reasons Mitchazenia has so many userspace edits is the partial creation and then abandonment of future articles that are never finished. This would be like starting User:Juliancolton/Somehurricane but only adding storm history and nothing about impact/preparations/records etc. So if you start a future article, either make sure you finish it and publish it, delete it with the tag {{template:dbuser}} (speedy deletion in userspace), or have someone else finish it and publish it. Since I myself sometimes have two sandboxes going, I won't tell you to only work on one future article at a time because then I'd be a hypocrite, and that's bad. So I'll ask you to keep it at a level you can handle and manage. Only you know you, so you should choose the number you can manage because only you know what you can handle.

Second, please make sure that you are not duplicating the efforts of some other user. This applies to all future article, not just hurricane ones. You can do this by looking at future articles in relevant WikiProjects, looking in people's sandboxes, looking at relevant WikiProjects, or by saying what you intend to create on. This final point is important because saying what you are going to do on say a current projects section on your userpage or in an appropriate talk page also prevents others from duplicating what you are doing. For example, right now, Hurricanehink is nearly finished a future article on Cyclone Inigo. It would be pointless for you to suddenly start to create your own because you would be duplicating what has already been done and it would make merging the pages difficult because administrator assistance would be needed.

Also, you do not have to spend a year looking to make sure you aren't duplicating someone else's sandbox. Just looking at a project talk page should be fine. Even if you do duplicate someone else's effort nothing horrible will happen. It's more important to be bold rather than timid.

If you are not intending to work on User:Juliancolton/Darby (1992) soon, I am willing to work on it for you, or on any other project you may be doing. People are friendly and should always be willing to help. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[7] --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm charged with making the reservations for us, so let's make it official. We'll do this via voting and everyone including anonymous voters, sockpuppets, and canvassed supporters is enfranchised. Voting irregularities and election fraud are encouraged as that would be really amusing in this instance. Please vote for whichever restaurant you would like to eat at given the information provided above and your own personal prejudices at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC#Let's make it official. The prevailing restaurant will be called first for the reservation. If a reservation cannot be obtained at the winning restaurant, the runner-up restaurant will be called thus making this entire process pointless. Voting ends 24 hours after this timestamp (because I said so). ScienceApologist (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		is hereby awarded to Juliancolton for a seemingly endless jetstream of edits to Wikipedia's storm-related articles. He's a typhoon! The Transhumanist 21:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I published an article on the storm. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The December issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The next newsletter will be made during the last week of January, and it will be discussed on IRC. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Darby is not quite long enough for publication, no. Try to find some more, or just expand on what you had. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

If there isn't much preparation, then preps can be part of the impact section. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, keep it on the back burner. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it doesn't look like quite enough. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You haven't participated on your coaching page for nearly a week.

Is something wrong?

The Transhumanist 11:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

1. Make sure Putnam is the higher priority
2. Listen to User: Daniel Case - I've asked him to help you out
3. Make sure the article is GA by January 31st
4. I will be the GA Reviewer
5. I will complete LoC4s as a favor for this challenge
6. Hink and Seddon will probably watch you to make sure you don't lapse

--♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Mitch had also asked me to check your work every now and then. Looks good so far (I gather you've been doing a lot of work on the history section (first graf needs to be cited, BTW), and we have a real one that's better so far than most of the othe HV counties.

I'm also looking at geography, which is still sort of an indiscriminate, disparate listing of facts. These sections are always best when done in prose. The salient fact about Putnam's geography, to me, is that it's more rugged and hilly than either Dutchess or Westchester, since the Appalachians sort of pick up again here (note how much of the Appalachian Trail's New York section has some of its highlights in Putnam. You've got the reservoirs in the eastern third, large state parks (Hudson Highlands and Fahnestock) in the western and central regions and a lot more transportation corridors going north-south (the two Metro-North rail lines and the roads — routes 9D, 9, Taconic and 22) than east-west (NY 301 is really the closest thing to an east-west route in the county as a whole, and it doesn't go all the way, either. All these things are a result of that geography, as well as the fact that it's a lightly populated county outside of the river regions and that whole Brewster-Carmel-Mahopac area. That has to be the theme of the geography section ... you're not writing an essay to prove that, but you're noting it.

As for government, which you've also worked on, I have in my queue a nice picture of the Putnam County Courthouse, which is on the National Register of Historic Places and is about the second-oldest county courthouse still used in the state. I should jump it and put it in. Daniel Case (talk) 07:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, BTW, I noticed you had listed the wrong mountain as the highest in the county, so I changed that and the link (You want to put those into {{cite map}} and credit the United States Geological Survey as publisher, not Topozone). I climbed all four of those summits once (and I do have a picture of one of them over Beacon Reservoir that might be useful) ... you don't forget that. Daniel Case (talk) 07:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Something you REALLY deserve

		The Article Improvement Barnstar: Putnam County, New York
		Your contributions to Putnam County, New York have been amazing. The article went from disasterous to beautiful in a matter of days. You fully deserve this barnstar.Mitch32contribs 22:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Good work, especially on the history section. Mitch says he wants me to take over for him for a while, particularly in the area of researching. Is there any article in particular you might want me to look at? Daniel Case (talk) 05:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

If you're finished your goals, then here are a few suggestions.

• WMO - check the World Meteorological Organization for the cyclone. They release reports every year on cyclones worldwide.
• JTWC - This archive lists every product the JTWC has released over the past few years. Check for advisories and significant tropical weather outlooks for the appropriate basin.
• MF - This archive has products issued by Meteo-France in La Reunion, which is the official warning agency for the SW Indian ocean.

--♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the project resources? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, JMA has their daily outlooks, which indicates where and how strong a storm is, but there aren't any warning archives. As I mentioned above, there is JTWC, and [http://www.jma.go.jp/jma/jma-eng/jma-center/rsmc-hp-pub-eg/Besttracks/bst2004.txt here is the 2004 best track. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Alpha (2005)? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

That might be a cool idea. Do you have a source to list each one? You do now how the Australian cyclone scale works, don't you? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

First, if you don't know how to read that data, then how would you make the article on Cat. 5 Australian cyclones? ;) Second, I don't own 2000 Atlantic hurricane season, so you don't need my permission to do the article. That said, I personally think it is easier for seasons that have articles for every storm. Since you did 2006 anyway, I personally think you should do what was done for 2003 and 2005 for 2006; an article called List of storms in the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season would have to be created, and then the main page for 2006 would be re-organized. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It's your call. I'm only thinking 2006 might be a little better because you started working on it before, and it does have articles for every storm. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to include every storm, first and foremost, but I think that's obvious. The more notable storms should get more information. There should be impact by overall areas (like one paragraph on the Caribbean, one on US, one on Canada), perhaps economic impact (though since there wasn't much economic impact, it might not be needed), and forecasting (indicate how well or how poorly the NHC did in forecasting - info here). --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess just base it off of the 2003 Atlantic hurricane season. BTW, how come you aren't using IRC? --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, tough decision - you wasting Wikipedia's bandwidth or you annoying us ;) Well, if there's problem, perhaps it should be talked about. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, no one's on the IRC right now, so you can come on and bother me instantaneously, rather than hitting me with a new message every 3 minutes. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I was about to, but then I realized that the emoticons don't work on WP ;) --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Here is some online info on typhoons:

• Worldwide tracks - all official basins
• Seasonal forecasts - from the City University of Hong Kong
• JTWC archives - back to 1959; a few older ones are incomplete
• Some tropical cyclone database
• Japan Meteorlogical Agency - RSMC for the NW Pacific
• Typhoon 2000 archives - mainly on the Philippines, but a few for elsewhere]
• Digital Typhoon - mainly for naming and track viewing
• Unisys - does not display names
• JMA best track - Since 1951
• JTWC best track - Since 1945
  • The JTWC sometimes contradicts the JMA or the CPHC
• The Selga Chronology - 1348-1934
• PAGASA - The Philippines

Other info:

A template, template:deadliest typhoons exists listing the five deadliest typhoons. I created that template. However, sometimes there are differing death reports, so if you find a reliable source giving a casualty count high enough to put it on the tempate, do it!

I'm sure I read sometime last year that Typhoon Mireille is the costliest typhoon (corrected for inflation). However, I don't remember the source so I might be wrong.

Crossovers to NE Pac:

• Carmen (1980)
• Skip (1985)
• Virginia (1968)
• Unofficial ones not recognized by CHPC: see [8]

Crossovers to North Indian:

• Vamei (2001)
• Gay (1989)
• And at least two others

I hope this helps. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Juliancolton/Active

Non-tropical storm articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA	1	1	5	6			13
FL			1	1			2
FM					2		2
GA	4	8	17	31			60
B	1	12	32	28			73
C	13	19	61	103		9	205
Start	3	22	79	141		12	257
Stub		3	14	55		1	73
List		2	2	5		6	15
Category					98		98
Disambig		1		3	15		19
Portal	1						1
Project					8		8
Redirect			8	17	33		58
Template	1		2		29		32
Other					1		1
Assessed	24	68	221	390	186	28	917
Unassessed				1		3	4
Total	24	68	221	391	186	31	921
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 2,882			Ω = 4.23

Assessment works now ... -- Prove It ^(talk) 17:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks to me like these ought to belong to Wikipedia:WikiProject Non-tropical storms ... what do you think? The meteorology cats are sort of a mess... -- Prove It ^(talk) 18:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for applying for AutoWikiBrowser. I have approved you, so you can get to work immediately (you can download it from here). Good luck!

  jj137 21:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but I can't download it. Are there any other ways of downloading it? Juliancolton (talk) 22:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Not that I know of...   jj137 22:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I will try on my other computer to download it. Juliancolton (talk) 22:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, let me know if that doesn't work and I'll try to find a solution.   jj137 22:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I will do that in a bit. Juliancolton (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, it doesn't seem to work. Juliancolton (talk) 00:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Right now, I can't think of a solution, but I'll still work at it.   jj137 (talk) 22:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

No offense Juliancolton, but before you officially publish the newsletter, would you mind leaving a message on my talk page so I can proofread it for grammar and spelling mistakes? Thank you, Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks for that, although I've fought the founder would be the first to be named the featured user, but it will be up to the WikiProject for that. That would be good to have a newsletter, although not sure if I will decide to help on that, because since I'm already an administrator, not to mention I would also add more major contributions to contents and my lengthy one year post-university break is soon to be over. So I could mostly help with the articles to improved those so to add maybe more material on both Severe weather and non-tropical. Although maybe I could help a bit on a section or two, I will see about that.

Second of all, we will wait for some time on attempting the GA on that December series of storms for now (for the reasons I've stated on the talk page). Yeah, I've forgot to reply on that one.--JForget 00:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

If you have recently seen WT:SEVERE I have proposed a newsletter there after seeing your WP: NTROP newsletter. I was hoping since I am a contributing editor to your newsletter, you would be the same for mine. Thank you, Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I have started the newsletter at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Thank you for your help from Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 01:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the newsletter is ready to go out on Friday, if you agree. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, we have no nominations, and no, I will not nominate my self. Perhaps we should publicize the newsletter with a message on member's talk pages. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I know we only have 2 support votes for featured member, but I do not think will we get anymore. I guess we can just go ahead and publish it. I will begin work on a template for the newsletter that should go to all project members. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice job. The article looks pretty good. ---CWY2190^TC 18:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

There's a comment for you on your coaching page. The Transhumanist 00:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

And some more. (be sure to see the watchlist section). The Transhumanist 01:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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A newsletter has been started for WP:SEVERE at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Newsletter editors are currently in need of nominations for featured member to finish the newsletter before the begining of the month. Nominations are accepted at the above link. User: Southern Illinois SKYWARN and User:Juliancolton

Just wanted to see if you liked this message. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Always use the TCR for the dates. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The January issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I've granted you rollback, please only use it for reverting vandalism, not edit-warring. Best of luck, Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 23:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Kushan I.A.K.J/New Rollbacks School/Welcome

It's OK, but it still needs a lot of work. I see a lot of storms that are missing, including at least 12 since 2000. If you're looking to get this to FL status, I will not support if it's not comprehensive. That aside, I see some Wikilink and several typos (either in the prose or in the Wikilinking). For many storms, you merely that a storm hit Long Island, or that it only dropped some rainfall in the state. However, it's more important to give a wide range of effects, when they exist. When writing of deaths caused by a hurricane, be sure to state the number of deaths that were in New York. All in all, it needs some more work. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like a table listing each storm by the number of deaths it caused in the state. A top right-aligned image is needed. I still think some storms are missing. 96 affected New Jersey, after all. I really don't think you dug deep enough. You only list 10 storms from 1901 to 1950, which I find very unlikely. Several storms still list the overall damage and death totals, which is useless for the state article. I suggest you go back through the archive, slowly, and add some more stats to the article (like if any houses were damaged, and overall more info than just rainfall or wind gusts, when available). ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I am only partially active on wikipedia. Put me on the inactive list as you see fit. --Kuzwa (talk) 03:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm pushing a collaboration to complete the list of basic space exploration topics.

Should be fun. Drop on by.  ;)

Also, see my post to User talk:Quiddity#Basic topic lists if you want to delve in deeper.

The Transhumanist 08:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Severe weather NewsletterVol. I, No. 1, Issue 1, February 2008 If you would like to delete this message, the original is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter/February 2008

Welcome Welcome to the first monthly issue of the WikiProject Severe weather newsletter! In this issue, we will welcome you to the newsletter, and give you an idea of what the project is about, what it has done, and what it plans to do. So, enjoy reading the February 2008 issue! If you have not signed up to receive the newsletter, you may do so at the newsletter page. If you do not sign up, you will not receive the next newsletter! New project articles Marion, Illinois Tornado Outbreak- Featured as a "Did you know" article on the Main Page List of May 2003 Tornado Outbreak Sequence tornadoes (split from the main article) 2008 Vancouver tornado- Details the recent abnormal tornado in Vancouver, Washington Barneveld, Wisconsin tornado outbreak- Details a destructive tornado outbreak that hit areas of Wisconsin in 1984. January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence-Details the recent tornado outbreak (see section below) Featured story This featured story focuses on the relative WikiWork for this project. The relative WikiWork is the measure of how lose a project is to having every article featured. It is a complex calculation; ω = a + 2g + 3b + 4s + 5t where a is A-class articles, g is GA-class articles, b is B-class articles, s is start-class articles, and t is stub-class articles. Thus, the closer you are to 0 (zero), the closer you are to having every article featured. The WikiWork number for every class is added, then divided by the number of articles, similar to averaging, and it is found that the relative WikiWork for this project is Ω = 4.182. Ω is a symbol for the relative WikiWork factor. That is not the best number, as we are closer to 5 than we are to 0, and we are very close to 5. This means that the majority of the articles in the project are either stub, or start. That is what we need to change. So, while more severe weather articles are good, we should try not to publish as many stub class, and fewer start class articles. Wikiwork statistics Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Severe weather articles by quality statistics Members section New members User:Juliancolton (Talk) The most recent user to join the project, but is very active. User:Juliancolton is also an editor of this newsletter. Featured member User:CrazyC83 is this month's featured member for WikiProject Severe weather. (The following text is from User:JForget's nomination.) User:CrazyC83 - One of the most active (if not the most) members in recent tornado activity coverage and monitoring. Recent examples of this includes the February-March 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Alabama and Missouri, the May 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Kansas and Oklahoma and the January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence in Missouri, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. Had also made coverage in non-article tornado events such as the New Orleans tornado event on February 13, 2007 and the tornado event associated with the Superstorm of December 16, 2007. User:CrazyC83 made numerous edits, more than one hundred, to 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak. Significant storms Significant storms last month included the outbreak in the United States in early to mid-January that produced 71 tornadoes and killed three people. Several tornado emergencies were issued in association with supercells during this outbreak. This outbreak was very similar to a classic spring severe weather outbreak, but extending farther north than even most late season outbreaks. The hardest hit areas on January 7 were the Springfield, Missouri metropolitan area and areas immediately to the north of Chicago, three people were killed near Springfield throughout the Southwestern Missouri Ozarks. On January 8, my area, the Tri-State region of Evansville, Indiana, was hit with the tornado outbreak. Only a few funnel clouds were reported in my area. Most tornadoes of the day were confined to the Memphis, Tennessee area and Eastern Arkansas, where one person was killed. On January 9 only a few wind and hail reports were received[1]. On January 10, however, the action started back up. More tornadic storms developed across the Southern United States, including several significant storms that produced tornadoes. These tornadoes severely damaged rual towns in Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia. The most notable of these tornadoes was reported in Lamar County, Alabama where 1 person was injured as several buildings were destroyed in this EF-3 tornado. Five more deaths (three by tornadoes and two by straight-line winds) were reported on January 29 from a series of scattered tornadoes and a serial derecho across the Ohio Valley stretching south into Arkansas.[2] References ^ http://spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080109_rpts.html SPC reports for January 9 ^ Storm Prediction Center 20080129's Storm Reports For more references see January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence

Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 04:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I will this send out to the other members pending your approval. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 04:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added an edit to the FPC. --Joopercoopers (talk) 01:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The article is looking better, but the history section still pretty much stops at WWII, and there is still no description of the economic picture. The education section is also very short, and accomplishes little more than some brief statements (are there any libraries in the county? that could be added to education). The rest is probably fine, although I'd move the culture section up in the order of sections, probably right after economy, but before transportation. The biggest issues are the history section & the economy section (lack of information and research here). Dr. Cash (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's significant when roads were built and such. What I really mean by expanding the history section is more of a description of how the county actually developed economically, politically, and such, in the past 60 years. Certainly, something has happened in the county recently other than watching the grass grow? Dr. Cash (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See here. --Son (talk) 16:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I've moved your coaching page to your userspace for safekeeping.

I resign.

The Transhumanist 03:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks great. Just look at the template page for the WP:SEVERE newsletter for formatting if you want to make a template. I could help out too. (Just a side note-The formatting for the WP:Severe newsletter came from the WP:Illinois newsletter. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 21:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I went through your comments you left here. You are welcome to review the updated version of the article. Thanks, Nergaal (talk) 09:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I went again through your proposals at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dwarf planet. Many sections of the article have been reviewed. You are welcome to see the changes, and if you still ahve concerns, please leave a few examples so I can know what to work on. Thanks for your time, Nergaal (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Nergaal (talk) 04:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I hope you don't mind me asking, but I'm just wondering how come I recieved, but then unrecieved the NTROP newsletter? Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 17:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought you might like this for the top of your talk page.

Note: I will reply on your talk page, and if the conversation is particularly important or lengthy, I will add them to my talk page as well to make it easier to keep track of both sides of the conversation. I may also refactor your replies made on your talk page here for posterity.

here's how you do it:
{{Notice|'''Note:''' I will reply on your talk page, and if the conversation is particularly important or lengthy, I will add them to my talk page as well to make it easier to keep track of both sides of the conversation. I may also refactor your replies made on your talk page here for posterity.}}

anyways, happy storm-chasing and enjoy the userbox! xenocidic (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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It has been stated by others in the project over the past couple years that all dates should be wikilinked. Has this changed? Thegreatdr (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. I'm tired. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, Thank you for voting for the spinning dancer optical illusion. You opposed because you did not see the 2-way spin, hence I recommend you to concentrate on the 2 images at the end of that nomination and you will be able to see it spin, after a bit of concentration. Its a great illusion and it has dumbfounded many people. I kindly request you to re-consider your vote after you have tried what I recommended. Regards Muhammad(talk) 11:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for considering. :) Muhammad(talk) 19:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)