User talk:Dan Wescher

Unblock requests

June 3, 2022

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dan Wescher (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

1) I had never heard of "The Iron Warrior" prior to being blocked for supposedly being a "sockpuppet" of them. How can this account be a puppet of a user I didn't even know existed? 2) I will admit that I let my temper get the best of me and may have treated some users unfairly, but I can assure you that starting edit wars was not my intention. If I do get unblocked, I promise that I won't fight users and make more constructive contributions. 3) I promise to change my behavior by listening to other users and not breaking the privacy rules. 4) I also request that the autoblock be removed as I feel it's excessive, and I don't plan on making anymore accounts.

Decline reason:

WP:SNOWBALL. I'm not at all convinced you are unrelated to The Iron Warrior. As for your other points, it's not just that your contributions were a little out of line. They were far beyond what could possibly be acceptable here, far beyond. Yamla (talk) 11:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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For unblock patrollers: I blocked this user on a combination of behavioral and checkuser technical information. I believe I've made the correct determination, and as such, the user would be under 3X community ban. Please contact me for details, including a bit of private evidence. -- ferret (talk) 22:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm concerned, the indefinite block is warranted even if―purely for the sake of argument―we drop all talk about sockpuppetry. I'm thoroughly unconvinced by: I will admit that I let my temper get the best of me and may have treated some users unfairly, but I can assure you that starting edit wars was not my intention. This isn't an admission that they started an edit war, nor acknowledgement of the majority of the issues I raised in the ANI thread, and moreover there is no convincing description of how they will change their behaviour. — Bilorv (talk) 22:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I updated it to acknowledge how I will change my behavior. Anyway, I really do promise to change my ways. —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 22:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you say specifically what you did wrong? For instance, what "biography rules" did you break and in what way? Your comments are very vague. — Bilorv (talk) 22:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The rules stated at "Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of names". —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 22:50, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping also to hear WP:3RR and some acknowledgement of the uncivil pattern of edit summaries. — Bilorv (talk) 09:26, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 5, 2022 (UTRS appeal #59155)

is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:48, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 5, 2022 (talk page)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dan Wescher (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I had no idea who the "The Iron Warrior" is prior to being blocked for supposedly being a "sockpuppet" of them. Additionally, no evidence is provided that I am even remotely related to them. Also, going through their talk page and contributions, it appears the user you blocked me for allegedly being a sockpuppet of only sends cringy threats to administrators without providing real reasons as to why they should be unblocked. I do not wish any harm on administrators, and if I wrote something that did sound like a threat, it was not at all intentional.
I now understand that I was partially blocked for harassing users, starting edit wars, providing non-constructive edits, and picking fights off-talk page, all of which are against this wiki's rules.
I will admit that I let my anger get the best of me and may have treated some users unfairly, but I can assure you that starting edit wars was not my intention. If I do get unblocked, I promise that I won't fight users and make more constructive contributions.
I promise to change my behavior by listening to other users and not breaking the rules stated at "Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of names". I will also make sure to follow the Three-Revert Rule and discuss undone changes by administrators on articles' talk pages.
Last but not least, I will use neither my user page nor my sandbox to harass or intimidate users.

In conclusion, I understand that my behavior came off as egotistical and maniacal, and I sincerely apologize for my inappropriate and intimidating behavior. —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 21:17, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

With regard to Special:Diff/1094124995, if you need an immediate, tangible benefit before you're willing to admit to an obvious truth, you are not yet ready to use this website. Also, real life isn't a video game where you can test out what happens when you tell the truth, then load a saved game and lie if it turns out to be more beneficial. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Dan, let's give you a chance here to come clean. First, you start off with a falsehood. Public evidence, as much as is allowed by policy, was given in the ANI thread. Maybe you didn't read it, so I'll re-state: You edit from the same city as The Iron Warrior. This is technical data available to me as a checkuser, and policy prevents me from disclosing further information publicly. Additionally you have overlap on several topics with the master, and early on edited in a very clear similar pattern. Secondly, we're not required to "prove" to you that you're the Iron Warrior. What I do have to do is, if doubted, prove my case to my peers. I believe my case is fairly ironclad though, because... Thirdly, one of the last socks of the Iron Warrior publicly declared their social media accounts. Would you like to guess what one of the names they disclosed was? -- ferret (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May you please be clearer on what you are referring to when you say "Would you like to guess what one of the names they disclosed was?" —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 14:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They clearly identified themselves as "Dan Wescher". -- ferret (talk) 14:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you capable of providing links? I have never done anything under the name "Iron Warrior". (Sounds like an unsuccessful British rock band, to be honest.) —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 14:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not. Various policies prevent me from posting that information publicly. Any unblock appeal admin is free to ask me for it. It's moot though, you know exactly what your other account names and identities across Wikipedia, Fandom, Youtube, etc, are. -- ferret (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well... the only names I have ever used online are Dan Wescher and X-Inbox, none of this "Iron Warrior" tomfoolery. The point about the editing "pattern" is also ironically vague (no offense), as "pattern" could mean pretty anything in this situation (aside from an actual visual pattern). —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 15:10, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you unblock me if I said I am The Iron Warrior? —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 22:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After six months, you could make an appeal per standard offer. As a 3X community banned user, your appeal would go to ANI for review and acceptance. Even if you were not 3X, WP:SO is the route now. The ANI discussion was going to lead to your block either way. -- ferret (talk) 23:05, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NinjaRobotPirate: I'm not The Iron Warrior. I only asked that unblock question because I thought you'd be happy enough to unblock me if I lied that I am this "Iron Warrior" character. (And to this date, no evidence is provided that I'm the same person as The Iron Warrior.) And can you unblock my IP address? I understand I broke the rules, but the IP block just feels unnecessary as I do not plan on creating anymore accounts. —ÐW-🇺🇦^(T·C) 20:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]