User talk:CRBR/Archive 1

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Untitled U2 Album

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It is also important that all Wikipedia articles have an encyclopedic tone and follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. The information in question was on the songs for inclusion, taken word for word from atu2.com. I have edited the article to remove this information about the songs. If you have any questions, please feel free to contant me, or leave a message on the article's Talk Page. Thank you for your understanding.MelicansMatkin 22:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Untitled Album Two

Also, I believe that this is U2's 16th commercially released album, not 14th. The complete U2 discography of albums (studio and live) includes Under A Blood Red Sky, 1980-1990, 1990-2000, and 18Singles. Because of this, I'm going to move the album to the page U2's 16th album :) MelicansMatkin 22:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

April 21st

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My User Talk

Please do not add nonsense to my User Talk. I have explained the reasoning for all of my edits above - I suggest that you reread what I have put. If you would like to discuss this further in a reasonable conversation, please leave a message on my Talk Page. Also, I am actually a huge U2 fan. MelicansMatkin 03:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

"Quit Editing" - Response to comment posted on my talk page

Quit editing the U2 16th album article. You have no need to. And you keep deleting my source for the album sound. Why don't you just quit editing this page. Low life

U2boy.nl is not a reputable source - it is a fansite. Since you claim that the information comes from the BBC, Q Magazine, and Rolling Stone, please provide a link to the articles in question on those websites and add it to the article using proper referencing format. Please see WP:Ref for more information. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that everyone can edit, not just yourself. Just because you created a page does not mean you in any way have possession of the page, or can dictate what can or cannot be placed on the page. Wikipedia policy states that changes can be made by anyone, but there are guidelines that must be followed. Also, deliberately vandalising user pages (as you did to my own) is frowned upon, as is petty name calling; you should know that your conduct so far has been worthy of reporting to an administrator (something I have not done because you appear to be a new user, and I suspect that you are not yet familiar with Wikipedia policy). Finally, please do not remove comments that have been placed on your talk page - your edits can be viewed through the Page History, and will be done so by an administrator if the necessary circumstances arise. Your talk page is a record of your conversations, reminders, warnings, and blockings on Wikipedia. If you wish to remove comments from your talk page, then please archive. See WP:Archive for details on that. Please do not hesitate to contact me on my talk page if you wish to discuss this further.

Who do you think you are? And I did not CLAIM that is where I got the info. If you have a baby like problem about it, take it up with U2boy.nl

You are the one who provided U2boy.nl as a source - it is not a reputable website, and should not be used as a reference MelicansMatkin 20:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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April 24th

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from Talk:U2's Untitled 16th album. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you.MelicansMatkin 20:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


April 27th

Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to U2's 16th album, you will be blocked from editing. You have also broken the 3RR rule. MelicansMatkin 23:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

CRBR, it appears you have taken to vandalizing the "U2's 16th album" article now. Please do not do this, or you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. You should try discussing the changes you want made, on the article's talk page at Talk:U2's 16th album. If you are not satisfied with the outcome of that discussion, you can try dispute resolution. If you have questions about Wikipedia policy, you may ask me at user talk:coelacan, or get input from several people at the wikipedia:help desk. ··coelacan 05:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

You didn't cite any sources. By the way, please sign your posts with four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. ··coelacan 21:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
You deleted your own cites. It looks like you did that because you couldn't get the ref tags to work. See Wikipedia:Footnotes for help on how to do this. But atu2.com is not a reliable source anyway, since they are a fan-site. And please sign your posts.` ··coelacan 19:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


Apologies

I would like to apologise for my earlier conduct towards you. I understand that you are new to Wikipedia, and that the policies and formatting of the website may not be familiar to you. I was a little brusque beforehand, and perhaps did not explain things as well as I could have. I hope that if you reread all of my prior comments you can see where I was coming from. I know that you were trying hard to turn U2's 16th album into a good quality article, and that my own editing must have been very frustrating. I admit that I can be quite anal when it comes to proper formatting, and I hope you realize that my efforts where not directed against your work. Many articles are deleted soon after they have been created, if they do not contain references or other sources, are very brief, are not relevent at the moment, take content straight from another webpage, seem to have been created for the sole purpose of linking elsewhere, or many other such efforts. I was actually attempting to avoid that from happening by making the article follow Wikipedia protocol (for lack of a better word). I hope you can understand now why I made so many edits and reversions, and I would be more than happy to help if you have any questions about how to use proper Wikipedia format. MelicansMatkin 01:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


When you're editing

I've noticed that when you edit pages, you make several in a row to try and see how it looks. I thought I should tell you about the "Show Preview" button. When you make a change to a page, you don't have to click "Save Page" to see how it turns out - as I'm sure you've seen on many pages the result can look pretty tacky, and I've known of instances where users were given vandalism warnings because of editing in this way. But if you click "Show Preview", it will show you how the page (if you clicked "edit this page" at the top) or section (if you clicked "edit" at the side) will turn out. From there, you can just scroll straight down the page back into the edit box. Its very convenient, and I've found it really helpful. It's right next to "Save Page" too, so its impossible to miss. Cheers! MelicansMatkin 22:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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U2-Unreleased and Rare (COMPLETE ARTICLE)

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Re: The Saints Are Coming Errors

I was just wondering if you thought the U2/Green Day version of The Saints Are Coming is Punk Rock? It is under the catagory of Punk Rock which I don't believe it is. I believe it needs changed to just rock. Was it also produced with Jacknife Lee? I believe it wasn't. I believe it needs change and I believe you should. Thanks CRBR 20:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I checked U2Wanderer.org, but didn't see Jacknife Lee as a producer, although it's possible that they just don't have that information. You can request confirmation from some other editors as well on the article's talk page - they may have some sources that I haven't seen yet. As for the genre, I think Punk rock is actually right. The Skids were a punk band, and the actual song is a punk song. Also, Green Day are a Punk band, so I think that the genre is fine, although just plain Rock should probably be added as it definitely has a rockier feel than punk (although genre is really down to taste - I consider Zooropa a Rock album, but technically its alternative). MelicansMatkin 04:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, Mercy is a really good song, eh? I hope to hear it on an actual album some day. MelicansMatkin 23:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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Deserved

The Chain Barnstar of Recognition
For making a difference! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 3-5 others with 500+ edits but no barnstar. So that everyone who deserves one will get one Pseudoanonymous 19:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

If you have much more than 500+ please don't be offended; I am thinking about

  • The Chain Barnstar of Merit: 1500+
  • The Chain Barnstar of Diligence: 2500+
  • The Wikipedian's Chain Barnstar of Honour: 5000+

But I have to make them first Pseudoanonymous 19:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

???

What's Dissendium? MelicansMatkin 22:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

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Untitled Nickelback album

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Re:What?!

What do you mean REMOVE??? CRBR 18:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

As part of the names of band members you had Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr. I assumed that you had just copied the U2 infobox and edited it for your own band, but forgot to remove those two names. I apologize if that was not the case. MelicansMatkin 13:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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No Line on the Horizon

Hey mate, I was just wondering; what do you think of the new album? MelicansMatkin (talk) 03:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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