User talk:Altun Ahmedov

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This edit violated WP:BATTLE and WP:PERSONAL. Do not do it again. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

November 2020

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Sallarid dynasty. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Wario-Man (talk) 05:18, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AA2

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Mannaeans, you may be blocked from editing. Materialscientist (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPA

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for Personal attacks. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

This is now the second time I have noticed you charging another editor with lying, 'Why you talk lies'. Please be aware of the rules about WP:No personal attacks. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Albanian Crosses

Notice

The article Albanian Crosses has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This article is full of falsifications and revisionism, contradicting already existing mature wiki articles. Armenian inscribed Khachkars are represented as Albanian crosses using images of Armenian khachkars. The article is full of references to copies, not actual existing mature wiki articles, e.g. Gandzasar Monastery vs Ganjasar Monastery, Principality of Khachen vs Principality of the Albanian Khachin, Syunik (historic province) vs Albanian Sünik principality. House of Hasan-Jalalyan completely misinterpreted. The redirects to pages use fake link text. Everything that is Armenian is revisioned to Albanian. There is no historical evidence of existence of Albanian crosses whatsoever. Khachkar is UNESCO inscribed armenian cultural heritage https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/armenian-cross-stones-art-symbolism-and-craftsmanship-of-khachkars-00434

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Addictedtohistory (talk) 06:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon You've been reported for vandalism for the attempt of rewriting falsified/revisioned version of Khachkar article as Albanian CrossesAddictedtohistory (talk) 06:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Important

There are matters you need to address at the AN/I section you started ( Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Rudeness towards me and vandalism against the article ). Please respond as soon as you are able. Tiderolls 14:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please do not edit elsewhere without responding at AN/I. If you continue editing I will construe that to mean you have no response. Tiderolls 19:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pushing the Azerbaijani narrative on history-related articles

Hey! What's up? As I've checked your activity, it seems that you're possibly unacquainted with the rules here. Most of the Baku-based sources, like Ziya Bunyadov, are not accepted here. These sources are not supported by notable Westerner historians, and are regarded as revisionism. Please, avoid using such sources in the future and take time to be civil against others. Sağol! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 15:52, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Albanian Crosses for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Albanian Crosses, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.

The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian Crosses until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Albanian Crosses

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that Albanian Crosses, a page that you created, has been tagged for deletion. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Hovhannes Karapetyan 02:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

Continuing to edit without responding to multiple requests for evidence to support your allegations of blockable behavior against other editors has convinced me you will not stop. This belief is reinforced by your continued personal attacks accusing others of vandalism in your edit summaries. If you think you have been blocked in error, copy and paste {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below and replacing Your reason here with your appeal. Please read the guide to appealing blocks before you request unblock. Tiderolls•

They saw the reason for my blocking in a personal attack on someone. But I do not agree with that. Because I said that a user named Addictedtohistory called me a saboteur and vandalized the important parts of the article Albanian crosses and gave very small grounds for it. The authorities told me that they did not see anyone there calling me a "propagandist" and asked me when the word was used, and said that if I could not prove it, sanctions would be imposed on me. I replied a little later (1 day later) to prove it, and I already saw that I was blocked. The user I wrote above called my article a dream and is doing nothing but typical Armenian propaganda. Altun Ahmedov (talk) 07:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albanian_Crosses Altun Ahmedov (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the link above and read what the user Addictedtohistory wrote on 22:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC). He called the article Anti-Armenian purposeful and imaginary. Today, some users vandalize important parts of the article. I ask you to consider these issues and see who deserves to be blocked. Altun Ahmedov (talk) 07:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So you're saying you had 12 hours to explain your actions but opted to edit elsewhere while making further accusations without substantiation? When you finally decide to respond you take the opportunity to repeat your attacks, again supplying no evidence to support your position? Have I expressed the situation accurately? Tiderolls 11:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please be very constructive and fair in this matter. I appealed to Wikipedia for vandalism and subversive use of the article I wrote. I was blocked (but I gave a reason) because I did not give any reason for it. Now I show the link and the time and date of that user's post [1] 22:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC) Please read Addictedtohistory's post at this link and at this date and time. In general, the article I wrote is deleted in a very unreasonable way, and I can't interfere in it, and the administrators are indifferent to it. Please see also: [2] I know I bothered you a lot, but it seems that the managers really did not understand this issue. The links above and the comments written by that user are my proof. Altun Ahmedov (talk) 05:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It occurs to me that you may still not understand how you have violated Wikipedia policy. Have you read Wikipedia:No personal attacks? It was noted in the discussion of your first block and I assumed that you would want to familiarize yourself with the policy that you had violated. That's what one would normally do so as to avoid future problems. If you have not, please do. Please pay close attention where the policy discusses where editors are encouraged to comment on content and refrain commenting on editors. Another editor commenting on your work is not vandalism nor is it a personal attack. When you call editors liars, wrongly accuse others of vandalism and make allegations about editors violating policy that are not supported by evidence, that is casting aspersions. Repeatedly casting aspersions is considered a violation of the policy. The links you are posting as evidence are not clear. They do not point to specific actions by any individual that show policy violations. You are continually referring to content issues in this thread. The article and its content have nothing to do with your block. As administrators we are concerned with behavior for the most part. Many, many editors, including myself, have made mistakes with regard to policy and convention. Hopefully, we learn from those mistakes and so not repeat them. That's where problems arise; one does not learn and keeps repeating behavior that is not in the best interest of the project. Please reflect on your actions with this in mind and see if there is any way that you can come to understand what problems may be present. If you have specific questions I will attempt to answer them. Tiderolls 13:50, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, let's say I made a mistake. But I have 2 questions for you. 1. When will I be unblocked ?! 2. Are the Armenians and Persians not to blame for spoiling my article? They delete parts of the article unnecessarily, and I think this is vandalism. Will no one warn them? I know they do it because I am Turkish or Azerbaijani. They spread Armenian propaganda. I did not say this to them because I knew that if I did so, there would be sanctions against me, and it happened already. I did not expect that. What can I do now to prevent that article from being deleted? Please help me. They have already deleted 80 percent of the article. There I wrote an article using respectable references, which was a selected article in the Azerbaijani Wikipedia Azerbaijan, and they want to spread their false propaganda (Armenians). 3. Did you personally block me? PLEASE RELEASE ME FROM THE BLOCK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE Altun Ahmedov (talk) 15:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start with number 3. Yes. #1. You will be unblocked when you can convince an administrator that you understand the issues that resulted in your block and provide some type of plan for going forward in compliance. That doesn't mean just type you understand and won't do it again. Your appeal will have to have some detail. #2. That is a content issue. I can tell you that concentrating on content issues in your appeal will probably hurt more than help. Once you are unblocked, bring this issue to my attention again and I will explain more about addressing the situation. Tiderolls 16:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Can you explain my mistake to me again now ?! I'm trying to understand my mistake. Please explain my mistake again. Altun Ahmedov (talk) 16:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I read the link you sent above and the basic principles of Wikipedia Altun Ahmedov (talk) 16:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Any explanation would just be repeating what I and others have already posted. It might be more effective for you to explain how what I've written is unclear. The policy is relatively straightforward and I think I've been concise with my posts. What's not clear? Tiderolls 17:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;( I already see that you will be against me in this case. What should I do now? I am permanently blocked? They want to delete this article and its content has been changed. If you look at the identities of users who want to delete this article, you will see that most of them are Armenians. They do it just because I am Azerbaijani. I do not want to do any harm to the Armenians. They really unjustifiably delete the article and their evidence has nothing to do with that article. By the way, where are you? Which country? Do you know about the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan?Altun Ahmedov (talk) 07:29, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues for me: First, they delete my article unnecessarily. Second, my blocking. You seem to be pro-Armenian or Armenian Because I have never seen such injustice anywhere. If you have decided to keep this issue as it is, please tell me where else to go. I see that you do not approach this issue responsibly.Altun Ahmedov (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've explained the process for appeal in my first post in this section. I'm relatively certain this will be my last message to you. If you have concerns that I have not addressed heretofore I will respond. Otherwise, my best wishes to you and your family. You may also use the administrator help template.
Copy and paste this
== Question for administrator == {{Admin help}} <Your Question>
below and replace "Your question" with your problem. Tiderolls 14:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Note for any reviewing admin. If you have any questions after reading this talk page feel free to ping me, email me or leave a message on my user talk. Tiderolls 14:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. I was not unblocked, what should I do now? I thought as you said and decided that there was no reason to argue here. I really made a mistake. But now I want to be unblocked. What can I do?!Altun Ahmedov (talk) 20:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be pro-Armenian or Armenian Because I have never seen such injustice anywhere. Without you explicitly providing proof for this, this is yet another aspersion you have cast after being told not to do so, and will only serve to further harm your chances of getting unblocked. Unless you can prove otherwise, you are the one solely responsible for your behaviour that led to your block, and any unblock request will need to address that. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 23:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheDragonFire300 Don't bother me, no one asked you anything. I already know that I am permanently blocked Altun Ahmedov (talk) 18:28, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock Me

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Altun Ahmedov (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please look at this application. Now I will write my blocking story: I wrote an article about the Albanian Crosses. There were many references and sources in that article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Crosses There have been several suggestions to delete that article. But some users even called this article a propaganda and imaginary topic. Those users were Armenians. However, the Azerbaijani translation of that article was a selected article on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia, and the article I wrote is the English translation of that article. As far as I know, deleting any source on Wikipedia is vandalism. Those Armenian users have already started deleting the article without any grounds. I politely told them, "There are problems with the article for some users, it will be fixed." But they continued to act, calling me a propagandist.I complained to the administrators. The administrator told me that he had not seen anything like that and asked what he had missed. It said that if I did not prove what I said, there would be sanctions against me. I saw this message a day later, and then I saw that I was blocked while writing a reply and trying to substantiate what I said. I do not agree now that I have personally attacked anyone. I would never do such a thing. But they said it was the reason for my blocking. I do not agree with that. My article has already been deleted. I was very angry and upset about that. They deleted it in parts. In the end, they deleted the article completely. Please stop blocking me. Please unblock me. They did not even say when I would leave the block. I know the rules of wikipedia and I will never break those rulesAltun Ahmedov (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Please read WP:GAB as a number of the points you raise here are simply inappropriate for an unblock request. Let me give you some specific pointers. You note "Those users were Armenians". How do you know? In general, this wouldn't be relevant anyway, and it is deeply inappropriate for you to continue insisting that everyone who opposes you is Armenian. You say, "the Azerbaijani translation of that article was a selected article on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia". This is not relevant. The Azerbaijani Wikipedia is a different project with different rules. And you note that you were asked for proof and failed to provide the proof. Yes, being blocked is appropriate in such a case, and I'll note that you've still failed to provide the proof. Once again, please see WP:GAB. In general, unblock requests should address your actions only. You should generally not talk about those of other editors, as only your actions are what lead to your block. Yamla (talk) 11:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I realized my mistake

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Altun Ahmedov (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I understand. Indeed, you are right. At the time, I didn't know that complaining to someone and then not being able to substantiate what I said was a personal attack. I sat down and wondered why everyone was against me. Then I understood. I want to know how long I've been blocked. I did not open this Wikipedia account to personally attack anyone. I just came to Wikipedia to make some contributions (as much as I know). If I could convince the administrators (hopefully yes), I want my blocking to stop. If not, at least say when it will open. Please Altun Ahmedov (talk) 06:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Given the issues with creating hoax articles and the speed with which you jumped to nationalist name calling in the Blocked section on this page, I don't see a compelling reason to lift this block. signed, Rosguill talk 18:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

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