User:Rochelimit/Wiccan calendar in H&O

Wicca/Pagan southern observances of Equinoxes and Solstices, should they be included?

Earlier there has been a discussion about whether southern observance of the pagan/wicca calendar should be included in the Holidays & Observation section or not. This pushed me to rewrite the complex equinoxes and solstices into a more consistent format.

Regarding the southern version of Wicca, I personally think that southern observance should not be included in the H&O section because of reasons I will mention below. But for this to work, I will place myself in neutral mode and mention the reasons, etc.:

Contra of Wicca/Pagan southern observances inclusion in the H&O

  • Wicca celebrations are originally a northern observance anyway.
  • Wicca celebration is not notable in the Southern Hemisphere (only notable within the English community of the south, for instance in Australia, and probably Australia only (not sure with South Africa and others).
  • If the base reason to include the southern people is that it is unfair to them because the southern wiccans don't have their own reminder for the feasts, than it would be unfair for other people for instance those who live in the equator, etc. So I personally think that this reason is invalid.
  • Too redundant. People are well educated enough to be reminded of this opposite vernal-autumnal-equinox or summer-winter-solstice opposite in the south.
  • Other user has expressed contra toward this idea e.g. User:Asarlaí (Imbolc case)

Pro of Wicca/Pagan southern observances inclusion in the H&O

  • Why not?

So in order to make everyone happy, first I will recheck the H&O sections especially on the equinoxes and solstices. The goal is to make a more consistent format for the H&O section on the complex equinox-solstice section, which in the end may benefit the every observances there including the Wicca's.

Notes on rule

  • Rewrite the equinox on the other day? with link to the earliest day?
  • On notability note, some Wiccan celebration are more notable on their eve (which begins the day before), while some are more notable on their "day"
  • later > mention the southern observance on the main headings. This is to avoid people from separating the south observance, as in the case of May - Samhain May Day edit by Asarlai

Vernal Equinox

March 20 (per Mar 29, 2013)

March 21 (per Mar 29, 2013)

April 30 (per Mar 29, 2013)

Beltane

May 1 (per Mar 31, 2013) > Samhain is not May Day.

Summer Solstice

June 20

June 21

Lughnasadh > Where is Imbolc to Lughnasadh or Lammas?

August 1

Autumnal Equinox

September 21

September 22

Samhain

October 31

November 1

Winter Solstice

December 20

December 21

December 22

--Rochelimit (talk) 08:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Imbolc

January 31

February 1 (to fixed this for H&O purpose, no Imbolc in Feb 2)

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