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I'm not sure about the current last box: Explicitly Religious Political Movements. Some overtly relgious parties are more extreme than others. Christian parties in Europe (Christian Democratic Union, et al.) are generally populist mainstream parties not always working towards non-secular goals -- although the Kreuzurteil shows that the matter is fuzzy. Precisely how religious should a group be to warrant inclusion? samwaltz 22:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't understand what this is supposed to mean. How are Islamism, Christian Reconstructionism, etc. not "explicitly religious"? I'm removing it.Prezbo (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see elements of other religions worked in. What else fits? samwaltz 22:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While some aspects of the Sharia (particularly those advocated by Islamists) can be considered a "political ideology" most of the sharia isn't. The sharia is dominated by dietary laws, laws of marriage and divorce, laws of worship (salat), specification about various rituals (like the pilgrimage). These are pretty much universal activities practiced everyday by ordinary Muslims (e.g. it doesn't take a coup d'etat for a Muslim to avoid alcohol). Inclusion of the sharia in this template seems a bit unnecessary.Bless sins (talk) 19:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's the article name itself, but only inserting one article about "The Catholic Church and politics in one country" out of 180 or so, looks pretty funny (peculiar) in the section "Christianity." It kind of reeks of pov either in the article itself, or in the listing in the nav template. There are other religions with an interest in politics. There are other countries. But apparently no other articles? Wow! The formatting for navigating is also unusual. Student7 (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Finally dawns on me. The article is mostly about Elections, not politics. Politics is what elected officials do after they are elected. They pass statutes. The average person talks, and talks, and talks, and maybe even votes. Elections are important, but they are hardly "politics." A number of other articles may be affected by this misnaming.

Sharia, for example, really belongs here. What they talk about, they try to enact into law. It's not "just talk," which is what Americans mostly do. Student7 (talk)

@Rupert loup:, Thanks for your keen interest in this subject. However, I am afraid that the template is now getting too large to be useful. The purpose of a template is to provide an aid to quick navigation on related topics. When people face a thick wall of text in the template, they will simply walk away, and the template becomes counter-productive. If there are too many entries to be listed, it is probably better to make them into a wp:list article.

Can you pick 10-15 most important articles for each section of the template, and move the others into a list article? Pinging Abecedare for further guidance. - Kautilya3 (talk) 09:45, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3: There are other navboxes way more large than this, I think right now it has a normal size. But I will make it with collapsible groups to a more easy navigation. Anyway thats all the links that I found, I finished with this template and I don't think that it can become more bigger. Rupert Loup (talk) 10:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]