Template:Did you know nominations/Alexis Soyer

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 10:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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Alexis Soyer

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Improved to Good Article status by Tim riley (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 16:23, 22 January 2023 (UTC).

  • I will review this in the coming days! WatkynBassett (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Review:
      • The article was promoted as a Good Article on 18 January 2023 and nominated for DYK on 22 January 2023. Its promotion is thus new enough.
      • The article is clearly long enough (easily more than 1,500 characters of readable prose).
      • The article seems free of copyvios. Earwig picks up some close paraphrasing with a page called "alexis-soyer.com", but in my mind the phrases detected are so trivial that no further editing to clean this up is required.
      • The article is quite well sourced and the quality of sources seems good. I personally would prefer Sfn-references for ease of use, but that is just me and not part of the review.
      • QPQ is done.
      • The hook is somewhat interesting, but I am a bit concerned as the source provided is from 1842 and not accessible online for me. I would thus feel more comfortable with a different hook. While reading the article, I quite enjoyed the fact that a dish created by Soyer is still on the menu at the Reform Club. Could this make for a good hook, SchroCat and Onegreatjoke?
      • Overall: With a different hook (hook idea above) or a better source (online availability or newer offline source), I will approve this article for DYK. Thanks to all involved for creating free knowledge! WatkynBassett (talk) 19:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
  • I think you need to ask Tim riley: I've only made a couple of minor tweaks to it - he was the one who has re-written the piece. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the confusion SchroCat, Onegreatjoke credited you with improving the article to GA. Can you can chime in, Tim riley? WatkynBassett (talk) 19:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
      • Yes, I have indeed recently done a substantial overhaul of the article. The quote from The Morning Chronicle, 24 June 1842, is online at The British Newspaper Archive (which is where I found it) but alas one can't provide a generally useful link to it, because it's one of those websites that one accesses via a personal login, so that providing the URL that works for me is no good to anyone else, even those with their own login password to the same site. (Or so I have found, but would be delighted to be proved wrong.) Tim riley talk 20:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
        • Thanks for the detailed explanation, Tim riley. Then I would be willing to AGF on the source. However, I still think that an even better hook could be possible for this article, possibly concerning the still cooked "Lamb cutlet Reform"? Maybe, you or Onegreatjoke could suggest an ALT-hook? If not, still fine; I would then simply approve the original hook in two days time. WatkynBassett (talk) 20:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
          • Good luck. I don't dabble in DYK, about which I can't summon up any interest, though of course I realise we have to have something to fill up our front page, and I wish you all the best in your efforts. Tim riley talk 20:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
(Incidentally, and entirely irrelevantly, Sir Watkyn, the abovementioned SchroCat and I were the editors responsible for taking your creator's article to FA.) Tim riley talk 20:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
@WatkynBassett: How about ALT1 ... that Alexis Soyer's dish, Lamb cutlets Reform, is still on the menu at the Reform Club? Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:50, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: Thank you! I like it! Approving it as ALT1 , as it can be reliably sourced to Behind Closed Doors and the Reform Club itself. FYI: Changed to Lamb cutlets Reform according to sources. Adding: WatkynBassett (talk) 09:07, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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