Talk:Sundial Lodge

Blog based contents

@Greghenderson2006:, you stripped the blog citation, but did not check the prose against existing sources and it is contaminated with contents based on the blog. The entire thing needs to be verified against the remaining reference, and anything not directly supported should be removed. I am setting aside the entire paragraph from the article space here: Graywalls (talk) 19:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The design of the lodge was inspired by Allen Knight's (Carmel city councilman and mayor) visit to eastern Europe in the late 1920s, where he enjoyed the old European charm of the hotels. He asked the owners of a Czech hotel[failed verification] in Prague to share their blueprints with him. It was these blueprints he gave to architect Albert L. Farr to use to design the Sundial apartments. He commissioned Farr to design the apartment building and Michael J. Murphy to do the construction on the property where his aunts had a home. Allen Knight's parents and his two aunts purchased three lots on Monte Verde Street 7th Avenue. On the property was a cottage that Knight's father had purchased and assembled from real estate developer James Franklin Devendorf. Knight had to move their home on the building site to a new location at Guadalupe Street and Sixth Avenue.[1]

References

  1. ^ Seavey, Kent (2007). Carmel, A History in Architecture. Carmel-by-the-Sea, California: Arcadia Pub. pp. 93–94. ISBN 9780738547053. Retrieved 2022-04-09.
@Graywalls: Went through the article and pulled out everything that does not match the sources. Please review when you get a chance. Greg Henderson (talk) 01:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Greghenderson2006:, which page did His inspiration came from seeing a Czechoslovakia hotel. come from? I full text searched the cited source and there's nothing returned for Czechoslovakia or Czech. Graywalls (talk) 07:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching this. I've updated the article with the following two citations, with pages numbers:
  • Seavey, Kent (2007). Carmel, A History in Architecture. Carmel-by-the-Sea, California: Arcadia Pub. pp. 93–94. ISBN 9780738547053. Retrieved 2022-04-09.
  • Dramov, Alissandra; Momboisse, Lynn A. (2016). Historic Homes And Inns Of Carmel-by-the-Sea. Carmel-by-the-Sea, California: Arcadia Publishing. p. 66. ISBN 9781439656747. Retrieved 2023-04-02.
Greg Henderson (talk) 15:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Greghenderson2006:, this is a pattern with you. You start your article with what you want to include based on contents idea you apparently already have in mind. When sources are challenged, you remove the challenged source, but often leave behind the contents. You said you tend to work fast in another comment. Since you keep making same errors, this makes me think your sources are called out, you remove the challenged source but leave things in that's based on the challenged source and only go back after your work gets audited and caught again. courtesy ping@Melcous and Netherzone: Graywalls (talk) 19:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are right that I tend to work too fast. I want to let you know that I am commited to learning form my mistakes and improving. Greg Henderson (talk) 22:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Greghenderson2006:, as other editors have also questioned, why are you churning out additional articles rather than using that time to fix substandard articles with deficiencies such as fluff and remnants of blog sourced contents? Graywalls (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am doing both. I have corrected 20 articles in January but had a few dangling articles to finish. My focus will be to fix articles with "tags" that have unreliable sources. Please be patient in my attempts to clean things up. I have been working 8 hour days on this! The next cleanup should be a good one to watch. Greg Henderson (talk) 22:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Working 8 hours a day huh? Soooo are you doing it "professionally"? There's no need to keep churning out new articles. there's no deadline. When your work is so undependable and requires review each time and serious errors are usually found with each instance, it becomes a huge time sink for others. If several paragraphs are set aside into talk due to failed quality check, there's no need to rush to get it back into main space in matter of days. You can take all the time you want and leave the contents in question in talk until the contents thoroughly passes the test. This is why I personally think you shouldnb't be restoring things set aside into talk back into main space at your discretion, because the percentage of times verification failures are found are unacceptably high. Graywalls (talk) 09:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point about "paragraphs are set aside into talk". I'll keep these in talk from now on. Greg Henderson (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you editing Wikipedia professionally? Graywalls (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean? I do not edit Widimedia professionally but to add photos related to articles. Greg Henderson (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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