Talk:Salah


Four Salat in One Salat

أَقِمِ الصَّلاَةَ لِدُلُوكِ الشَّمْسِ إِلَى غَسَقِ اللَّيْلِ وَقُرْآنَ الْفَجْرِ إِنَّ قُرْآنَ الْفَجْرِ كَانَ مَشْهُودًا

(Sura Al-Isra 17:78).

Perform AsSalât (Iqamât-as-Salât) from mid-day till the darkness of the night (i.e. the Zuhr, 'Asr, Maghrib, and 'Ishâ' prayers), and recite the Qur'ân in the early dawn (i.e. the morning prayer). Verily, the recitation of the Qur'ân in the early dawn is ever witnessed (attended by the angels in charge of mankind of the day and the night). (Mohsin Khan, Al-Isra 17:78). [1].

Establish regular prayers (that is more than one)- at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night, and the morning prayer and reading: for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony. (Yusuf Ali, Sura Al-Isra 17:78).

Keep up prayer (single salat) from the declining of the sun till the darkness of the night and the morning recitation; surely the morning recitation is witnessed. (M. H. Shakir).

Establish thou the prayer (single salat) from the declination of the sun to the darkening of the night, and the Recitation at the dawn; verily the Recitation at the dawn is ever borne witness to. (Daryabadi).

Establish salat( single salat) from the time the sun declines until the darkening of the night, and also the recitation at dawn. The dawn recitation is certainly witnessed. (Aisha Bewley). [2].

From the above cited verse of the Holy Quran, one group (sunni) says that there are Four Salat Timings in this single Salat

(الصَّلاَةَ لِدُلُوكِ الشَّمْسِ إِلَى غَسَقِ اللَّيْلِ )

(along with fifth morning prayer). Whereas Quran Alone group proves from the same cited verses that this

(الصَّلاَةَ لِدُلُوكِ الشَّمْسِ إِلَى غَسَقِ اللَّيْلِ ) is one single Salat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.223.164.211 (talk) 05:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Salat in Hadith

The Ahadith prevail over the Qur'an; as for example, when the Qur'an refers to three daily prayers (suras 11:114; 17:78-79; 30:17-18 and possibly 24:58), while the five daily prayers stipulated by the later Ahadith have been adopted by Muslims.[3]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.223.164.211 (talk) 05:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Contact Prayers in Biblical Passages

Contact Prayers in Biblical passages are striking.

"And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded." (1 Samuel 20:41).

"As for me, I will call upon God; and the Lord shall save me. Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice." (Psalms 55:16-17) (PS: crying aloud apparently means praying with passion).

"Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did afortime." (Daniel 6:10). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.223.164.211 (talk) 05:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This section is unnecessary and incorrect. The first quote is not about bowing to God. The second quote mentions three "Salah", not five. The third quote has the same problem as the second. I'm deleting this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Konchog Namdag (talk • contribs) 10:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tahajjud

Kindly give some information about Tahajjud an optional Salah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemia pattinson (talk • contribs) 14:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

Why is this article called Salah when the body text consistently used Salat? Jpatokal (talk) 03:22, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was asking myself the same thing. The way I see it, User:CrvzyDxvil changed Salah to Salat in this edit. I'm not sure if he ever had the right to, and there should probably be a consensus, rather than sudden edits. I am in no way qualified to weigh in, though. Momsemann (talk) 13:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It should be Salah when written in isolation; it should only become Salat when the word is followed by the possessive, e.g. when one is specifying which Salah it is, such as in Salat al-Fajr. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:24, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The rules of Arabic grammar are irrelevant here, what matters is the most common name in English and I'm pretty sure that's Salat. Jpatokal (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Except that's not plainly the case, which is why the page sits at Salah. (Although Mo Salah may also play a role.) Anyway, since both spellings are in use, why not use the grammatically correct as opposed to grammatically nonsensical form? Iskandar323 (talk) 18:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen your comment right there, but I changed it to Salat because of how we pronounce it in arabic with forming in arabic "اَلشَّكْلُ" so Salah will be pronounced like this اَلصَلاَه however Salat will be spelled like this اَلصَلاَةْ, so now I hope you have an idea why I changed it, and I/we don't need a consensus for something that is obviously needs changing and I'm very confident that word needs changing because I'm an arabic speaker myself and I already spelled Salah and I though it doesn't seems right, so I changed it to Salat, and Thank You. CrvzyDxvil (talk) 09:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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