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I believe mention should be made in this article, which names Dr. Michael Dillon as the first female-to-male transsexual to undergo sex reassignment surgery, of Dr. Allan Hart, who underwent hysterectomy for the purposes of transitioning to male in 1917 or 1918 (see also here). "Sex reassignment surgery" is a bit of a misnomer, as it is not one surgery but a number of different surgical procedures, any one or any combination of which may be sufficient to allow an individual to live in the social role they see as appropriate to their gender identity. I believe the wikipedia entry on sex reassignment surgery makes this clear. I am therefore editing this article to reflect that Michael Dillon is the first trans man to undergo phalloplasty, rather than using the more general and potentially-misleading "sex reassignment surgery." —k.a.l. 03:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. It was pointed out that MOS:GENDERID does not apply here as the name change is not due to a self-expressed gender identification, so the name of the article should follow the name under which the subject was most notable. (non-admin closure) WPscattert/c 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Michael Dillon → Lobzang Jivaka – MOS:GENDERID calls for using the subject's latest preferred name (Lobzang Jivaka) rather than the most common name (Michael Dillon). gnu57 18:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: If I understand correctly, both names are male, so MOS:GENDERID may not really apply to the choice. Also, MOS:GENDERID is primarily about living people. Matters may be more difficult to ascertain for long-dead people. This may be a bit more like Cat Stevens or Stokely Carmichael, where the person's greatest notability uses a different name than their most recent name. I also notice that the nominator has submitted other questionable renaming proposals very recently, which makes me skeptical about this one as well. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Rv. 1192127025 Notability as a rower
Per WP:BIO#Sports_personalities I don't see how his highschool rowing is considered notable. The only source for this information is included from a biography of his importance as a trans man, not as a rower. there appears to be no media coverage focusing on his highschool activities at all. Liz-wiki-en (talk) 23:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"High school"? I think you mean rowing for Oxford University in the Women's Boat Race 1935 and the Women's Boat Race 1936; in both of these pages Dillon is wiki-linked which is notable. Nedrutland (talk) 23:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Linked because he has an existing article, not because the information itself is notable. this is shown by how the other rowers don't have articles. Liz-wiki-en (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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