Talk:Marvel Boy (Robert Grayson)

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The Crusader section says "called himself The Crusader (no relation to the medieval character from the Atlas Comics title The Black Knight)" - shouldn't this refer to Crusader (Marvel Comics)? I can't see evidence the Black Knight was ever called the Crusader, unless it is mentioned because he went on the Crusade (which would probably not be worth mentioning). (Emperor (talk) 05:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I think that means there was a character named the Crusader who appeared in the 1950s Black Knight comic. Does it need to be mentioned? I don't know. :) BOZ (talk) 14:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A reference to the issue where he battles the Great Video would be appropriate here. A link to a description would be great. KimVanA (talk) 20:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In reconciling the past and present tense of the Powers and Abilities section, I went with an overall present tense because that is how the entry is introduced: "Marvel Boy is"; but in describing his original power bracelets and use of contact lenses and rocket-ship I don't know if those items are still current. Should it say 'was' and 'were' in reference to these items, or does he still use them, in addition to the headband? KimVanA (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Several times the article says "volume & issue needed" and then says "Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations." I wonder if this is appropriate for how modern comics are written? In the silver age it was common for facts to be plainly stated and for a story to be explained in a single issue. But today it's more common to have a hint in one issue and other hint in another, and only by combining hints do we get a full picture. Quoting "Agents of Atlas 1-6" seems perfectly reasonable to me, given that six issues is a typical single story.

There are so few key issues (basically just Agents of Atlas, one issue of What If, and a two issue arc in Fantastic Four) that I cannot see where any confusion arises. Anyone with a modest understanding of Marvel (i.e. the kind of person who would be interested in this topic) will know that 1975 Fantastic Four, a 1978 issue of What If, and a 2006 mini series are radically different beasts. The detail already given in the article seems sufficient to point the reader in the right direction.

Any demand to link facts to chapter and verse beyond the current level would remove context and thus harm the article, in my opinion. Such demand for spurious accuracy also dissuades would-be editors who may be very familiar with these issues but not have them to hand.

I vote that the requests should be removed. 94.7.60.107 (talk) 01:23, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The requests should be removed, but not until the citations are added. Although there are still plenty of comics articles where issue citations are lacking, they are all being improved over time, and should continue to be improved. 24.12.74.21 (talk) 05:19, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Concur with 24.12.74.21. Additionally, the amount of in-universe information is supposed to be very limited. WikiProject Comics consensus for the past three or so years is to follow Wikipedia guidelines for writing about fiction, which eschews fictography and fancruft and uses primarily a real-world perspective. See Spider-Man and Superman, for example. --Tenebrae (talk) 05:37, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]