Talk:Logic

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February 25, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
October 9, 2022Peer reviewReviewed
May 12, 2023Good article nomineeListed
July 26, 2023Peer reviewReviewed
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 21, 2023.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Aristotle's system of logic formed the foundation of logical thought for more than 2,000 years until the advent of modern symbolic logic?
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
02:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent referencing style, no hope for GA or FA unless change

  • User:Phlsph7 and others who may be interested:
  • The referencing style is very, very inconsistent. There is no hope for a GA or an FA unless it is made consistent. I will happily do this in the same style as Black Monday (1987). I already have a major start at User:Lingzhi.Renascence/sandbox. Completely finishing it might take 2 more hours, but having 2 hours free time might take 2 days. [It might still look rough, but I know how to fix everything]... After that, I would copy everything over from my sandbox to here. Let me know if anyone has any objections § Lingzhi (talk) 02:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I assume that with "consistent reference style" you mean replacing all regular reference tags in the body of the article with shortened footnotes. I think it's a good idea and I agree that this would be beneficial for a possible FAC. Thanks for putting all the work into this. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:28, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I took the liberty of making some changes to your sandbox, I hope you don't mind. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:45, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    System changed. Actually, the style was more than 90% consistent, but there were many cites here and there in more than 1 different style. I assume they were added by a variety of editors. There were also sometimes many full citations of the same book, one for each page or section that was being referenced. Finally, I think the {{sfn}} format is more readable, not only in the References section as displayed, but in the underlying wikitext of the body text. § Lingzhi (talk) 20:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that Aristotle's system of logic formed the foundation of logical thought for over 2000 years until the advent of modern symbolic logic? Source: Haaparanta, Leila (2009). "1. Introduction". The development of modern logic. Oxford: Oxford University Press. pp. 3–4. ISBN 978-0-19-513731-6.
    • ALT1: ... that paraconsistent logic is a type of formal logic that can be used to draw meaningful conclusions from contradictory information? Source: Priest, Graham; Tanaka, Koji; Weber, Zach (2022). "Paraconsistent Logic". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. Introduction, 1. Paraconsistency. Retrieved 12 May 2023.
    • ALT2: ... that logic distinguishes between deductive arguments, which preserve truth, and ampliative arguments, which are not as certain but arrive at new information? Source: Hintikka, Jaakko; Sandu, Gabriel (2006). "What is Logic?". In Jacquette, D. (ed.). Philosophy of Logic. North Holland. p. 13. ISBN 978-0-444-51541-4. Archived from the original on 7 December 2021. Retrieved 29 December 2021. Inferences can be either deductive, that is, necessarily truth preserving, or ampliative, that is, not necessarily truth preserving. This distinction can be identified with the distinction between such steps in reasoning as do not introduce new information into one's reasoning and such as do not do so.
    • Reviewed: (fourth DYK submission)

Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Logic; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Phlsph7: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mirrors have picked up the article. Bruxton (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2023

Change "like the modus ponens" to "such as the modus ponens".
Change "like inferring that all ravens are black" to "such as inferring that all ravens are black".
+ check the rest of the article for similar errors.

Honestly, an article about "logic", a featured article too, should not be making these kinds of horrible errors, mixing up "like" with "such as". 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:9D96:289E:22BD:C291 (talk) 00:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Someone with such strong opinions shouldn't be mixing up formal fallacies with informal fallacies based on the narrowest archaic definitions of words in human language. Remsense 00:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Partially done by someone / Page is unprotected Hyphenation Expert (talk) 01:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Navya-Nyaya and modern set theory

The reference https://www.jstor.org/stable/2106873 talks about fringe theory regarding its relationship with modern set theory and it was first added by the user jagged 85 on 25th March 2010 who was known to misuse his sources. Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 02:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Myuoh kaka roi and thanks for bringing this to the talk page. Could you clarify how your claim is relevant to the article? The source you mentioned is only used for one sentence. This sentence does not mention a relation between the Navya-Nyāya school and modern set theory. I don't know if this was different when the source was first added. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This same source is also used in other articles ilke Indian logic and History of science and technology in the Indian subcontinent where they talks about the relation with modern set theory. Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 08:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The user jagged 8 may have misused sources, but this source does support the sentence, and it is a reliable source although a bit old. Plus, there are plenty of other sources that support the same idea from a quick google search (e.g. [1][2]), including the SEP [3]. Shapeyness (talk) 12:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you but can these reliable sources talk anything about modern set theory which was been subsiquently added to articles like Indian logic.It was once there in this article page but was subsequently removed. Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 13:10, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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