Talk:List of anthropogenic disasters by death toll

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"This is a list of events that have caused a measurable drop in the total human population." What's the cutoff for being "measureable"? How can this "list of" article be clear it's not using arbitrary parameters for inclusion? Greyspeir (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This entire article is stupid, it's nothing but an excuse for people to present their favorite bogeymen in an unfavorable light, there are no qualitative nor quantitative criteria, and best of all there is no point to it. It should be dumped in the garbage as soon as practically possible 203.160.68.16 (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That logic sort of falls apart. A pile of sand exists no matter where the line where it becomes a pile, red becomes orange even if you can't tell me the exact point at which it does. The frame of the page itself doesn't mean that there can not be a quantitative criteria. However, if that criteria is not decided by a primary source then the page itself will have to be changed significantly to cover the argument itself and different proposed models over picking one model and running with it. HaptenWin (talk) 23:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Henry VIII numbers looked out of place, and sure enough they're originally sourced to the number of judicial executions ascribed to regular capital crimes (like theft), not religious crimes (if you look at actual rebellions and religious persecutions during his reign, the numbers executed, which were carefully recorded, was in the hundreds per each, not tens of thousands). The current criteria for political leaders includes "national policy", so are Medieval executions for felonies included, even though the essential "policy" remains unchanged for millennia?

Previous discussion from 2007 notes the inherent problem with this and the article's cruddy political leader criteria (or lack thereof), which seems to have never been addressed despite WP:LISTCRITERIA and other policies. In addition, sources on numbers are generally weak, not reflective of recommendations for covering historical topics such as WP:HISTRS.

Every citation needs review for rigor, with summary deletion for anything originating from nonrigorous sources. Also I suggest the political leaders section be deleted as inherently unworkable. Every other section needs clear list inclusion criteria. SamuelRiv (talk) 01:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]