Talk:List of SMS gateways
 | This article was nominated for deletion on October 21 2013. The result of the discussion was delete. |
(Added here for visibility). This list is now available on Github here: https://github.com/mfitzp/List_of_SMS_gateways/ 147.188.128.176 (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
"Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Does this indicate that it IS possible to have content OTHER than encyclopedic? It would seem to me. How about we put this page back! I was just about to make a donation... and my goto page for this info is now deleted! Forget it! 74.140.40.198 (talk) 12:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I frequently referenced this page. I'm surprised to see it deleted. As has been noted, this was the only place I've been able to find that this information was available together. Bring it back. 142.179.209.171 (talk) 15:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear this wasn't encyclopaedic content (on the basis of being ephemeral - ie. it is not eternally *true*), but it is useful. I have been keeping one of the sources referenced from this page up to date for the past few years. For that reason I've copied the latest version of this page from Wayback (October 2013) to this location. --Mfitzp (talk) 00:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I agree that this content was useful but not encyclopaedic, so I understand the deletion - it doesn't belong here. Unfortunately, it became the primary source for multiple projects as evidenced above. So what should we, those who need the content, do now? We need up-to-date, community-edited information, not a stale blog post (no offense Mfitzp - you've clearly got good intentions, but that information will be very outdated in just a few months, if not already). Wikipedia needs to figure out what to do with deleted articles in a way that makes sense and not just simply delete them - there's history here that is now lost forever (I needed the "View history" diffs on this article for my own project and that information is gone too). Wikipedia needs to have a backup dumping ground for deleted content, including all the history for that content, that still functions normally (i.e. community editable). Doing so would allow articles like this one that have been deleted but still have quantifiable use to have a place to continue living on with the hope that maybe they might eventually morph into something usable on the main Wikipedia servers (maybe not all the content but perhaps some of it) or at least continue to be useful in a community-edited Wiki format. For this page, the conversation should be presented to the user like this, "Hello, you've reached a deleted page on Wikipedia. We've kept the original content over here where it can still be edited. It was deleted off of Wikipedia for not being sufficiently ephemeral, but the community editors also determined that the content was still useful and no other up-to-date source like it exists elsewhere on the Internet, so we've kept it to avoid irritating visitors specifically looking for it. Otherwise, the community editors determined that this page over here (SMS gateways) might be more suitable for encyclopaedic information on the topic." Right now requests for this page simply drops users onto the main SMS gateway page, which is also seemingly under dispute, is far less useful than this content was, and most certainly not what people are looking for. Redirecting this page to a page on skin cancer would be about as relevant as where the current redirect takes people. 65.129.237.212 (talk) 23:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
No offence taken 65.129.237.212. I was actually contacted by someone recently with exactly the same concerns, who suggested putting it up on Github as a good solution by making it editable (forkable) by anyone, easier to keep up to date and with history preserved. But I got distracted and forgot about it. Your message has prompted me to do this and you can now find it here: https://github.com/mfitzp/List_of_SMS_gateways/ It's not a perfect solution, but at the very least it's more open than it was. I'm happy to help moving it to a better home if you can suggest one. Thanks Mfitzp (talk) 23:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)