Talk:José de San Martín

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Small Inaccuracy

Just to make sure my little correction isn't thought of as "vandalism": San Martín really did build his army in Cuyo before he liberated Chile or Peru. It would have been rather hard to do so otherwise. See Mitre, Bartolomé - The Emancipation of South America (or any modern history book, or sections 4.1.3 - 4.3 in this article) to confirm this. Correction made in last sentence in second paragraph. Indeterminate 09:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

This article states that San Martin declared independence for Peru on 9 Dec 1824, yet later states that he moved to France in 1824. Unless he declared independence while in France, or unless he moved to France in the last three weeks of the year, I find this year to be doubtful. I will try to research this, but if someone else knows the answer and can beat me to it, it would be appreciated.

I'm living in France near the town of Evry, and while having a bicycle ride there this morning I noticed by chance a place which gate held several plaques stating that General Jose San Martin had lived there between 1834 and 1848. It is now some kind of religious place (priory or such). To my understanding it is then inaccurate to state that he spent the remaining years of his life in Boulogne sur Mer... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.231.150.115 (talk • contribs)
A picture of the plaque would be nice. Mariano(t/c) 08:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Redirect

How about a redirect from "General José de San Martín", and maybe one from "General San Martín" ? I had a difficult time finding this page, as I didn't know his first name actually.

Okay. Done. -- Infrogmation 18:27, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This Article

I Think this article is very bad for the report I am doing for Social Studies. It did not explain how he got his followers, or his steps for carring out the revolution. I'm very outraged.

Hmmmm, very outraged seems to be a bit of an over-reaction. Were you completely counting on Wikipedia to do your report for you? OH NO! It looks like you're going to have to go and do some research for yourself! Isn't that terrible!--GringoInChile 10:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stupid question

Was San Martin "Argentine"? He was born Spanish, and became an Argentine... did he? elpincha 21:38, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I remember he was born in Yapeyú. At least that's what I thought!
Google says:
José F. de San Martín nació en Yapeyú el 25 de febrero de 1778
Su Madre: Gregoria Matorras nació en la España de Castilla la Vieja.
Su Padre: Juan de San Martín nació en la España de Castilla la Vieja. Fue coronel y, en 1774, teniente gobernador de Yapeyú. -Mariano 08:09, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is that there was no Argentina when he was bourne, he was bourne in the territory of what today is the province of Corrientes, Argentina. But yes, he was argentinian, as he himself said in his testament. (for more information go to the discussion page in spanish)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk · contribs) 19:40, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 19:40, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Initial comments

I've now completed a very quick read of this article. It appears to be well referenced (but I've not checked any), well illustrated, readable and comprehensive, so it appears to have a good change of making GA by the end of this review. Consequently, a "quick fail" is not appropriate here.

I'm now going to go through the article in a bit more depth, starting at the Early life section and finishing with the WP:Lead. This is likely to take at least a day or so. Note: at this stage I'm reviewing against WP:WIAGA and I will be mostly concentration on any "problems" that appear as I go through the sections. Pyrotec (talk) 21:34, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Early life -
    • unnamed subsection -
  • Looks compliant.
    • Military career in Europe -
  • Looks compliant.
  • South America -
    • Argentina -
      • unnamed sub-subsection -
  • Looks compliant.
      • San Lorenzo, Army of the North, Governor of Cuyo & Crossing of the Andes -

...stopping at this point. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • These four sub-subsections look to be compliant.
    • Chile -
      • Battle of Chacabuco, Patria Nueva, Battle of Cancha Rayada -
  • These three sub-subsections look to be compliant.
      • Battle of Maipú -
  • Looks compliant.
    • Peru & Guayaquil conference -
  • These two subsections look to be compliant.
  • Later life -

...stopping at this point. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 17:27, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looks compliant.
  • Remains, Legacy & Lead -
  • These three sections look to be compliant.

Overall summary

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


A comprehensive & well illustrated article

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Yes, much of it is from Galasso (2000), but other references are also used.
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
    Well illustrated with relevant and captioned images.
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

I'm happy to award this article GA-status.

It does not appear to have gone through WP:PR, so I would suggest that as the next step. I also think that this article could have potential at WP:FAC.

Congratulations on having produced a "fine" article. Pyrotec (talk) 18:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

I think that is better say that San Martin was born in El Virreinato del Rio de la Plata, because Argentina was not a country yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.228.227.105 (talk) 00:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia really want a whole separate article for each general's service in each country? The subject of this article even has articles on his "Early life" and "Later life"... Technopat (talk) 18:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


NO this merge should not ocurred----

Yes.

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