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A fact from John Morin Scott (mayor) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that John Morin Scott, the mayor of Philadelphia, responded to the 1842 Lombard Street riot by mostly arresting black victims?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Morin Scott (mayor).

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 01:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the mayor of Philadelphia, John Morin Scott, responded to the 1842 Lombard Street riot by mostly arresting black victims? Source: During the 1842 Lombard Street riot, Scott and Philadelphia constables responded to the violence by mostly arresting black victims (reference-page 266)
- ALT1: ... that the mayor of Philadelphia, John Morin Scott, attempted to stop violence against Catholics during the 1844 Philadelphia Nativist Riots but was struck in the chest by a rock? Source: Scott... pleaded with rioters to spare the destruction of St. Augustine Church.(reference-page 366) He was hit in the chest with a rock thrown by protestors (reference webpage)....
- ALT2: ... that John Morin Scott was the first mayor of Philadelphia elected by popular vote? He was the first Philadelphia mayor to obtain the office through popular election rather than by appointment of the city councils.(reference-page 348)....
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nils Elias Anckers

5x expanded by Dwkaminski (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 19 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:
New enough:
Long enough: - ~~not 5x expansion; before expansion, 534 characters. Current version at 2276 characters, but needs 2670 characters. Someone can double check my math, please.~~

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All hooks are good, but let's go with ALT0. I'd like another reviewer to check for length. Excuse the pickiness, but according to my calculations, this article needs ~400 words to be eligible. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:07, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Figureskatingfan: Thank you for the review. I'll wait for another reviewer to weigh in on the length of the article. Just to clarify my stance - using the character count tool from the DYK toolbox - the article on 9/28 (excluding infobox, so copying body copy text from John Morin Scott to Laurel Hill Cemetery) is 851 characters. 5x would require the article to be 4,255 characters. Measuring the article on 3/23 using the same tool and excluding infobox (copying text from John Morin Scott to final mention of John Morin Scott in Personal life section) shows a character count of 6,497 which meets the 5x requirement. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 13:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but WP:DYKCHECK says "was 535, now 2276"--Laun chba ller 13:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to the Character Counter in the DYK toolbox. Dwkaminski (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Per WP:DYKPROSE says DYKcheck is "generally considered the authoritative counter of prose size".--Laun chba ller 14:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some additional content and may have hit the ~400 additional characters needed. Dwkaminski (talk) 14:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently 2566.--Laun chba ller 15:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about now? Dwkaminski (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2950 as of the above comment, so let's roll.--Laun chba ller 15:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Thanks, everyone. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]