Talk:Jefferson Davis/GA2

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Reviewer: Retrolord (talk · contribs) 08:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will review. ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 08:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The following is unreferenced: ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 09:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Both of Davis' paternal grandparents had immigrated to North America from the region of Snowdonia in North Wales; the rest of his ancestry can be traced to England. Davis' paternal grandfather Evan married Lydia Emory Williams, who had two sons from a previous marriage. Samuel Emory Davis was born to them in 1756. He served in the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War, along with his two older half-brothers. In 1783, after the war, he married Jane Cook; she was born in 1759 in Christian County, Kentucky, to William Cook and his wife Sarah Simpson. Samuel and Jane had ten children; Jefferson was the last and was born on June 3, 1808, in Christian County."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"For eight years following Sarah's death, Davis was reclusive and worshipped her memory. He spent time developing his plantation, studied government and history, and had private political discussions with his brother Joseph."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 01:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"That same year, Davis met Varina Banks Howell, then 17 years old, whom his brother Joseph had invited for the Christmas season at Hurricane plantation. She was the daughter of Margaret L. Kempe and William Burr Howell, and the granddaughter of the late New Jersey Governor Richard Howell and his wife Keziah. Within a month of their meeting, the 35-year-old widower Davis had asked Varina to marry him. They became engaged over her parents' initial concerns about his age and politics, and they married on February 26, 1845."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 01:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Margaret was the only child of Jefferson and Varina to marry and raise a family. She married Joel Addison Hayes, Jr. (1848–1919), and they had five children. They were married in St. Lazarus Church, nicknamed "The Confederate Officers' "

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"She died on September 18, 1898, at age 34."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Alexander Stephens was chosen as Vice President. On November 6, 1861, Davis was elected Confederate States President without opposition. He was inaugurated on February 22, 1862."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"They were intending to get to a point where they could sail to Europe."

One reference refers to Cuba, but not Europe. Since they fled south toward Florida, this seems to make sense. Will check further. Omnedon (talk) 12:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to find a reference to support this, and other references that suggest he wished to reach Texas, I've removed this statement. Omnedon (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"After two years of imprisonment, Davis was released on bail of $100,000, which was posted by prominent citizens of both Northern and Southern states, including Horace Greeley, Cornelius Vanderbilt and Gerrit Smith. (Smith was a former member of the Secret Six who had supported John Brown.)"

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 12:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Davis visited Canada, Cuba and Europe in search of work."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 01:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"He is interred at Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond beneath a life-sized statue. The marker lists his accomplishments as a graduate of West Point, his positions in the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate and his military service. His tenure as President of the Confederacy is not mentioned."

I have yet to locate a reference which mentions the marker and what it says; a photograph of the monument bears this out, but I'm not sure if that is sufficient. Omnedon (talk) 02:29, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photo will do just fine ★★King•Retrolord★★ 03:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Now that I think of it, I'm not sure how I would do that. Any suggestions? The image is here. Omnedon (talk) 13:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Bertram Hayes-Davis, Davis's great-great grandson, is the executive director of Beauvoir, which is owned by the Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans."

Referenced. Omnedon (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix the above, so I can get on with the rest of the review. As usual, you have 7 days. ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 09:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making those changes, this is good progress. ★★King∽~Retrolord★★ 05:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coming along nicely. ★★King∽~Retrolord★★ 06:20, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I hope to have this finished in the next couple of days. Omnedon (talk) 12:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"He was too often out of touch with public opinion.[5] He lacked support from a political party (since the Confederacy had no political parties).[6] His preoccupation" Three sentences starting with He/His, please rewrite? ★★King•Retrolord★★ 05:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence about lack of political parties seemed to be out of place; the rest of the paragraph focuses on Davis' flaws. That sentence may fit elsewhere. In any case, I've re-written. Omnedon (talk) 23:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

" was warned against further sketching of Spanish military installations" What does this mean? ★★King•Retrolord★★ 05:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just to give you a heads up, Omnedon, Retrolord got indef blocked a few hours ago. I opened a discussion at WT:GAN about what this might mean for his reviews, but my assumption is you'll have to finish up with another reviewer. Sorry for the hassle, but I'm glad to see this one's getting so close... -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:33, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've closed this review with a result of not listed, but this is on purely procedural grounds, not any judgement on the quality of the article. It still has the same place in the queue, and hopefully will have a new reviewer soon. I'll ping WP:MILHIST to see if I can see if I can speed up this process for you. Sorry for the delay in your review! -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK. I do appreciate your efforts, though -- thanks! Omnedon (talk) 20:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]