Talk:Inès de Bourgoing

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Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 9, 2016.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that nurse Inès de Bourgoing (pictured) was named Honorary Corporal of the Foreign Legion after she established a convalescent hospital in Morocco and a retirement center in France for French soldiers?

Overlinking

Isn't this a case of overlinking? Do WWI, WWII, Paris and some other locations really need to be blue-linked (and several times at that)? LouisAlain (talk) 08:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAlain Feel free to change anything. Your help is appreciated. Paris is linked once, as far as I can tell. WWI and WWII were each linked in the lede and body, so I removed links in the lede. As major world events, they set the context of the era. While I'd like to think most readers are aware of the time frames and events of those eras, I have been told on other files that is not the case. SusunW (talk) 14:21, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Paris is twice linked (in the text and in the infobox) but it's ok. I linked "Société de Secours aux Blessés Militaires (SSBM)" to French Red Cross cos the article in French is much more informative than the one in English which consists of just one single line. "In the lede and body" (did you mean in the lead?; see how unsure my English is)
Thanks for this interesting article, I had no idea this woman even existed. LouisAlain (talk) 14:50, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help LouisAlain. I thought the same. Discovered the picture of her and then when I started researching who she was, I became totally fascinated and asked Ian to help. And thanks for linking to the article in French. I toyed with working on the English version of the French Red Cross article, but felt it should be done by someone with more ability in French. (Lede or Lead is acceptable for the opening summary, why two spellings exist, I don't know.) SusunW (talk) 15:03, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see what I can do re. the French Red Cross article but the fr. article weights over 56ko which is too much for me to entirely translate (it would be a disaster). I'll focus on the Société de Secours aux blessés militaires part. Good luck for the GA status. LouisAlain (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree LouisAlain. One look at the Red Cross article in French and I was overwhelmed. And thank you for the good wishes. Hopefully the reviewer will find our effort acceptable, but give us direction if it needs improvement. SusunW (talk) 18:21, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 09:57, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dr. Blofeld looking forward to you improvement suggestions. SusunW (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Will review later this evening!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SusunW: Sorry for the delay, I've been flat out with the contest. Very little to complain about:

  • Link any places not already linked in Fez, Kenitra, Marrakech, Meknes, Mogador, Oujda, Rabat, Safi and Taza.
 Done SusunW (talk) 17:28, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link château de Thorey-Lyautey, presumably there should be an article on the chateau itself Aymatth2 (talk · contribs) might be able to create that one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:05, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I linked to the article on French WP. Is that sufficient, or must we create the article? SusunW (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Not only had she cared for wounded soldiers, she had turned to the weak and the poor without any concern for race, gender or faith" -watch tone here, promotes her a little too much as a heroine.
Revised the language to be more neutral. SusunW (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Colonel Pierre Geoffroy who enjoyed close associations with the Lyauteys," -

"Colonel Pierre Geoffroy, a close associate of the Lyauteys"?

 Done SusunW (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On 7 July 2002, on the 140th anniversary of her birth, a small area on the first floor of the Château de Thorey-Lyautey was opened by Senator Philippe de Bourgoing and Count Pierre de Bourgoing in memory of Inès de Bourgoing. It contains photographs and other historical artefacts in a building which is otherwise dedicated to the life of her husband Hubert Lyautey.[24]" -she hasn't died yet LOL, why is this before death? Move to "Death and legacy" section
Moved.--Ipigott (talk) 14:42, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for the review Dr. Blofeld I think I have addressed your concerns. Advise if we need to do anything further. SusunW (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. A OK.!


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    Pass or Fail: ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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